I think one thing alot of people are missing is that the "openess" of Andriod is great in all, but because its just an open OS and not a locked down piece of hardware, in the end the service providers will ultimatly rip out what ever they dont like...that is unless you buy a phone unlocked. Most avereage americans go to their cell providers and buy a phone with a 2 year contract. Because they dont want to buy an unlocked phone for 350-400$ they get a contract and end up paying 99$. And thats fine in all until you realize that alot of the times these cell providers gimp the phone for their benifit. Case in point, I had a phone that would have let you (if it was unlocked) put MP3s on it and then set those as a ringtone. But my provider removed that feature from the phone, and its probably because they wanted consumers to buy their 15 second crappy ringtones for 1.99$. Most avereage american cell phone buyers just want something that works, and if it looks cool and has nifty features all the better. The main key of succsess despite the high price point of the Iphone, is that it has the Ipod generation backing it, and people are not usally acustomed to all the features the Iphone has (full featured internet comes to mind).
Sure alot of the Iphones features have been done before on different phones, but for the most part those were the "buisness" type phones, and your average mom and dad, or teenage kid wouldnt buy into one of those unless their job demanded it. The Iphone took those sort of things and made it mainstream, or as mainstream as you can get with a 499$ pricetag. And because they have such tight control over their software and the hardware all of the features APPLE wanted to get passed on...got passed on. Because I can bet you, the one thing AT@T hates the most about the Iphone is that is cuts into their music ringtone market. If it was up to them they would have never wanted people to be able to use Itunes with the Iphone, they would have loved to sell you all of their ringtones, and games and wallpapers and other over priced media. But they rolled with it because they knew the Iphone would have a huge market to go off of (Ipods).
So I think, unless theres some way for phone makers to cut out the cell providers from stripping features out of the OS, then it becomes a moot point on how "open" it is, and until Apple came into the phone market no other phone maker stood up to the service providers. I would think the only way to get full benifit from Andriod would be to buy an unlocked version of the phone.
Now I know some people might tell me Im totally wrong, because they dont really lock down WM or other things like that. But I think that its because those phones go for the "buisness" type crowd. If andriod were to be put into middle-of-the-line phones Id be willing to bet that features and capabilities would be locked out and shut down.
So all in all, Im not trying to say OSX or Andriod is better, Im just suggesting that its still up for the Adroid phone makers to push the cell providers as Apple did to let them have more control of the OS. Because if theres one thing the cell providers want, its to turn a profit, and if everyone can port wallpapers and ringtones and other media things from their computer to their phone bypassing the cell company...well they wouldnt be turning much of a profit Im guessing.
At 10PM or earlier on 11/18 [sic] (we are guessing he meant to write 11/16) employees will pass out tickets for midnight sales. There are 50 tickets for PS3, but actual units arriving is unknown.
Actually the part of them talking about handing out tickets on the 11/18th date instead of 11/16 might be true. I called my local walmart and asked if they would do a mid-night launch of the ps3 and he said "yes" I said ok thanks and was about to hang up but then he said "yea but it will be on the 19th" and I asked just to make sure he said the 19th, but yea...thought that would be interesting
Google: Android will outsell iPhone, we still love ya Steve
Mar 16th 2008 6:50AM (Engadget)Google: Android will outsell iPhone, we still love ya Steve
Mar 16th 2008 6:22AM (Engadget)Most avereage americans go to their cell providers and buy a phone with a 2 year contract. Because they dont want to buy an unlocked phone for 350-400$ they get a contract and end up paying 99$. And thats fine in all until you realize that alot of the times these cell providers gimp the phone for their benifit.
Case in point, I had a phone that would have let you (if it was unlocked) put MP3s on it and then set those as a ringtone. But my provider removed that feature from the phone, and its probably because they wanted consumers to buy their 15 second crappy ringtones for 1.99$.
Most avereage american cell phone buyers just want something that works, and if it looks cool and has nifty features all the better. The main key of succsess despite the high price point of the Iphone, is that it has the Ipod generation backing it, and people are not usally acustomed to all the features the Iphone has (full featured internet comes to mind).
Sure alot of the Iphones features have been done before on different phones, but for the most part those were the "buisness" type phones, and your average mom and dad, or teenage kid wouldnt buy into one of those unless their job demanded it. The Iphone took those sort of things and made it mainstream, or as mainstream as you can get with a 499$ pricetag. And because they have such tight control over their software and the hardware all of the features APPLE wanted to get passed on...got passed on.
Because I can bet you, the one thing AT@T hates the most about the Iphone is that is cuts into their music ringtone market. If it was up to them they would have never wanted people to be able to use Itunes with the Iphone, they would have loved to sell you all of their ringtones, and games and wallpapers and other over priced media. But they rolled with it because they knew the Iphone would have a huge market to go off of (Ipods).
So I think, unless theres some way for phone makers to cut out the cell providers from stripping features out of the OS, then it becomes a moot point on how "open" it is, and until Apple came into the phone market no other phone maker stood up to the service providers.
I would think the only way to get full benifit from Andriod would be to buy an unlocked version of the phone.
Now I know some people might tell me Im totally wrong, because they dont really lock down WM or other things like that. But I think that its because those phones go for the "buisness" type crowd. If andriod were to be put into middle-of-the-line phones Id be willing to bet that features and capabilities would be locked out and shut down.
So all in all, Im not trying to say OSX or Andriod is better, Im just suggesting that its still up for the Adroid phone makers to push the cell providers as Apple did to let them have more control of the OS. Because if theres one thing the cell providers want, its to turn a profit, and if everyone can port wallpapers and ringtones and other media things from their computer to their phone bypassing the cell company...well they wouldnt be turning much of a profit Im guessing.
Rumor: Wal-Mart Wii/PS3 launch playbook revealed -- midnight launches [update 1]
Nov 6th 2006 6:56AM (Joystiq)Actually the part of them talking about handing out tickets on the 11/18th date instead of 11/16 might be true. I called my local walmart and asked if they would do a mid-night launch of the ps3 and he said "yes" I said ok thanks and was about to hang up but then he said "yea but it will be on the 19th" and I asked just to make sure he said the 19th, but yea...thought that would be interesting