seamonkey420

@laser beams

the main point of soundbars is that people DONT want to have to run rear speakers or wires or have the space.

of course a true multi channel surround system w/6-9 speakers will trump a sound bar.

this is for us that don't have the space or want to run tons of speaker wire to our rear speakers but still get a semi-decent 'quasi-dolby' experience.

@aughscreennames and those would be??? i don't see any examples..

soundbars like this are not cheap. if they are, they sound as good as they cost from my experience.

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMP_enUS291US312&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=soundbar#q=sound+bars+home+theater&hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMP_enUS291US312&prmd=ivs&source=univ&tbs=shop:1&tbo=u&ei=sBW2TIzWDdDFswbhu7C1CA&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQrQQwAA&fp=5a996d56de453056

$280 for a Sony one is looking like a pretty good price imo.

@juanvaldez back in my sony ericsson days, most carriers branded the roms and in turn lock the mp3 as ringtones features and other cool things. flash an unbranded firmware via davinci server and features all back :)

as for tmobile, Tmo is very lax these days!

i still get full 3G data on my nexus one with my old $5.99 Tzones data plan, tethering included. :)

@pi rules nope, i'd say it isn't since it has pinch to zoom homescreen features alone (thats senseui-ish). :)

i just tried that on my n1 w/stock froyo and no love.

@BlackedOut lolz

yea, froyo is very tasty indeed. been rocking it for a while. tried the desire hacked rom for n1 but battery life was killing me (which is prob fixed now but am liking 2.2 too much to go back)

@BurntChrome

i'd guess most likely yes. if anything, you may need to use a different apn for data than what normally is set (epc.tmobile.com is still the most common apn for data plans)

you could get voice by setting up a SIP phone/account, not the easiest or most reliable voip phone setup but its free. :) i use it on my ipads 3g data as a secondary phone to call out with if i'm hotspotting my nexus one. using 4 services to get incoming/outgoing voip calls for free (sipgate, google voice, sip sorcery, and pbxes)

@csnoke @Xoy

true, very true. i guess i'm a sucker for a different dumb phone to take out on my more 'adventurous' nights on the town. don't wanna lose my nexus one after a night of debauchery

then again, i did buy a watch phone from china too, hehe (btw, it sucked too; ok hardware, horrible software)

my thoughts? lack of GSM carrier.

the only people i could see getting this are the types like me; very active on the net, tech savy, sim card based carrier that one could then swap out sim card in and put in Kin phone for a night on the town (while being able to leave the smartphone home).

i prob would have gotten one as a backup if they offered it on tmobile or gsm unlocked.

hmm, sounds like a phone and data plan that tmobile should offer. :)

they were known for offer super low data plans to 'dumbphones' and thus why a ton of us old skool tmobilers have the sweet $5.99 unlimited tzones web that works on all phones.

i'm thinking that managing a lower tiered unlimited data plan would be too much work and cost for verizon and thus why tmobile opened up those older plans to work w/all phones (used to limit ports open and require a proxy server to connect to internet on tzones wap data plan).

heck, i'd pick one of these up as a back of my nexus one (again, gotta love gsm providers and the sim card; swap and go baby!)

@bahoo can i get an amen?

friend codes = 'i'm lazy and don't want to build an actual online infrastructure'

watch out big N, online gaming isn't going away anytime soon and the longer you wait the farther behind your service gets behind (look at Sony and how long it took them to catch up to Live's headstart).