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This game will OWN. Can't wait.

Seriously, why bother? Did you not see how many units will be available come launch? This isn't going to be like a 360 or PS3 launch, they'll be enough units shipping so that anyone can just walk into a store and buy one.

Ha...what a "let down"?

It's a good Nintendo doesn't let down there fan base....

Oh wait.

Get off this guys back, fanboys, he makes a very good point. Nintendo went out of there way to name the system "Wii" to give the impression that people will game in a group. But, like the big N has done so much in the past, they dissapoint. Don't get me wrong, I'm still picking one up at launch, but the fanboys with the blinders on need to see the light, not everything Nintendo does is particularly smart...in fact, MOST of the choices they make leave me saying "WTF?!, WHY would they do that?!"...but then again, I'm not a biased gamer.

Uhhh Goldeneye anybody?

Overheating...pshaw.

I've had my xbox 360 since day one and I've played the HELL out of it.

How many time has it "overheated"? 0.

How many times have I had it lock up? Twice, but that was due to game bugs, NOT a hardware issue.

@elmer

I'm a Nintendo fan as well...they always make solid games, and the DS is awesome. Now on to your post:

I agree that Rockstar jumping ship is unlikley, which wasn't my point. My point was that a 50gb GTA game isn't going to happen, at least not anytime soon. It has been stated in numerous articles that due to new compression schemes and content, games won't get that big for awhile...at least a few years, if that. Since this is the case, my point is that its quite possible the next GTA would be cross-platform compatible.

No doubt the Playstation has a huge head of steam. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS3 sold really well, I just don't think it should be expected. There are a bunch of new factors to take into account...the price, the components, the 360 will have a huge head start, etc.

You lost me on the memory..? Are you talking about System memory or disc space? It looks like you mean disc space, so I'll address that. Oblivion does use a majority of the disc space, but does that mean the 360 can't use multiple DVD's? No...it doesn't. And those who complain that switching out a DVD is a pain in the ass, get over it. Yeah, it sucks real bad to get off your ass and walk 2 feet...oh boo-hoo. I hate to break it to you, but the reason for the lack of ports wasn't just disc size...it was also audience size.

"And no, it's not a new ball game, otherwise Sega would still be alive." I don't understand that logic either...that's exactly why it's a new ballgame. MS is NOT Sega. Even if they come in last place again, they're not going anywhere. MS can afford the loss, can Sony or Nintendo? I'd like to see either of them lose a fraction of the 4 billion MS lost and still be relevant. Even %18 (if that number is correct) of the market is pretty damn good for the first time out, with NO experience in console gaming.

Yes, price will be a factor. I never said the 360 was going to be the cheapest one in the market, just cheaper than the PS3, and I think that will matter since the systems are very similar. I'm not counting the Revolution out either...for all we know, they could surprise us all and be the leader...it looks like they are finally getting their sh*t together.

Yeah, I'm living under a rock. THE ROCK OF KNOWLEDGE!!
hehe, seriously though...I know nothing has been announced pricewise, i'm using good'ol fashioned common sense (you should try it sometime) and what info they HAVE released. I didn't "convert" anything, this is just a best estimate since Sony is keeping quite (which supports my theory...why not just come out and say PS3 will be $400? Why all the dancing around the pricetag?). It's possible the system could sell for $400-$500, but that seems unlikley due to the included components. Sony would be taking a massive hit. Last I checked, Sony was hurting finacially (which is another reason to up the price). But, hey, I could be wrong Sony fanboys...maybe the PS3 will be $200 and make toast!! Keep hope alive...

Yeah, the next GTA will be 50gb. Dude, Oblivion on Xbox 360 isn't even 8gb, and have you played that game? It's MASSIVE. Just because you have 50gb doesn't mean it's going to be utilized...this is an old debate. This gen is a new ballgame...I wouldn't be so sure about selling 100 million PS3's this time around either. With a $600-700 pricetag, a delay until November, and 1x blu-ray drive increasing load times, Sony has an uphill battle. Might be a smart idea to jump the Sony ship and head on over to the 360.

"That's right, THEY GIVE YOU A NICE BIG AGE RATING ON THE BOX!!!!!!!! and then proceed to sell those games to minors who manage to save up 50 bucks. It's really easy to say these games have absolutely no effect on children and ill-adapted adults when you don't actually see the results. Working with teenagers all day, I actually do see the results, so I'm less inclined to side with profit-driven game companies that pander to a violence-addicted culture."

So you're going to side with more censorship which will eventually lead to games being outlawed? That makes MUCH more sense. After games are outlawed maybe they'll move onto movies and music. This argument is ridiculous...for the last time PARENTS need to be involved in their kids lives. IF they don't pay attention, and IF the kids are already screwed up, then I could see this being dangerous. Those kids shouldn't be playing ANY kind of games anyway. They should get help before they hurt themselves or someone else, and the parents should be turned over to social services for neglecting thier children.