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@nhat cs does not equal p2win.

@Space Cobra gw2 CC is based on aion's but with more restrictions to keep a certain artistic vision. It you played aion long enough would have notice how immersion breaking and unnatural aka deformed, some of the toons players made.

@smartstep "Something hugely awful does not make something lesser in awfulness scale right automatically." Those are your words. Which seem to indicate that you believe cash shops are well... bad. And I am saying that, I think the people who automatically think like that aka ppl like are brainwashed into believing sub based games are the only way.

Yes, SOME cash shop games tend to abused their cash shop, but guess what EVERY sub base game does it in a more insidiousness manner to the point where ppl like you have accept it as OK.

@Trololol "Real investment" huh, I guess you don't know know much about investment. Real or not, given the currrent state of the market that is probably a good thing, the only bad thing that could happen is if the game all of a sudden shuts down, but that isn't that far less than when a billionaire lost 300 million dollars in a single day.

@Lenn 27% return in investment should be the keyword in your statement. I mean, my bank only gives me .005% interest on my money. That guy is smart.

@smartstep cash shop is not more evil than subs, it just that people are used to it. or have been brainwashed by companies to believe it to be true.

@Item I agree, the was a time I used to wave the hardcore flag, but after spending 2 years playing aion as a member of the most hardcore guild ( wake up at 4 am to kill world boss, had control of every fort, top dps etc) I asked myself what is the point of all these, once I couldn't come up with an answer I decided to play MMO as game and not make it my life. According to most of the way casual is used, I am probably a bad player, which is not true. The only difference between me and the hardcore is time spent. Ironically, most of the casual players I know tend to be much better players than the so called hardcore.

@KinseySS

Yep, pretty much this. which makes the list useless

@Utakata Why would they intentionally compete with their other product, so soon after release?

They are probablyu gonna wait till when guild wars 2 is out long enough before releasing blade and soul in Na. This is what they have said in the past anyways.

@LordBlackass you got that wrong. The hardcore are the vocal minority in most MMORPG. So no, blizzard was listening to their main audience. Your reaction is of normal vocal minority.