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@Bolts: The difference between WoW and TF2 is that Valve doesn't charge for anything other than the initial cost of the game.

(Well, that, and they're totally different games.)

@Ophidios: Roland TD-3SW - $1000.
DTXplorer: $879 (currently on sale at Amazon for $600 though)
Current ION controller: $300 ($250 if you want one less cymbal).

Also, these are higher-quality than most ION kits (the same drums and cymbals are used in the $600 Alesis DM6 kit) and can be hooked into a MIDI drum module (the cost of which admittedly brings this closer to the price of a DTXplorer, although you don't need to buy a MIDI adapter to use it in Rock Band) for use as an actual electronic kit.

@teteroto Very different games. DDR isn't so much about dancing as it is about how fast you can move your feet. This is actual, you know, *dancing*.

@(Unverified): Actually, that item box isn't there in normal Sonic 2, only when it's locked on to Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

@doubleyewdee: Another reason Macs are probably more powerful than the average PC in the statistics is that Valve's games aren't exactly demanding. The two most consistently popular games on Steam (Counter-Strike: Source and Counter-Strike) are from 2004 and *1999*, respectively. Even CS:S is from before Apple was even making Intel Macs.

@st3v3n: The Orange Box was ported by EA, Valve talked about how terrible the port was, Gabe said the PS3 was a useless piece of crap, and neither Left 4 Dead game was for PS3.

So yeah, this is a surprise.

@(Unverified) : Nah, he said best *console* version. PC gamers are still the glorious master race.

@mrmobius Pretty sure this IS the surprise.

I like how they're using TF2 to advertise the bump in GPU power.

@Saad Yeah, I was about to say, it looks exactly the same.