Steve P

Me again... clearly you're 15, but even my 15 year old brother can be informed about a topic before he preaches it.

1) The Wii has wifi INCLUDED in the box. It's part of the reason why the Wii is $250.

2) My neighbourhood has tons of wireless routers, phones, and all kinds of other things crowded in the 2.4ghz spectrum. All I had to do was set my router up properly, and I don't have to worry about interference.

3) Go play the same games with "shinier graphics" on your 360 before bitching about new ways of playing in a Wii thread.

4) The controller won't be causing problems, it will be defining a new standard if Nintendo's previous track record (and Sony's last minute adoption of accelerometers) is anything to go by.

5) The Wii is 802.11g, backwards compatible with B.

DBX, are you wearing rose-tinted shades? Analog sticks are nowhere NEAR as accurate as a mouse, and they don't even approach the wiimote without the insanely large hitboxes and computer-assisted autoaim. Wake up, man. The Wiimote isn't a keyboard+mouse either, but at least it has the potential of being close, thanks to its pointer functionality. Dual analog stinks for accuracy and first-person-perspective games, and that's not a fact that's disputable.

Let me get this straight. You can't see yourself playing FPS games with a pointer? You must be joking. Go embrace your dual-analog, the absolute crappiest method of playing any first person title ever devised. I'll enjoy the mouse and wiimote (both pointers) because they are clearly superior. Watch a first-timer play CoD3 for the Wii. After a minute of adjustment, he's doing things with the remote that dual-analog can only dream of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW3oNrWv6vQ

As for the PS3, it's an uphill battle to the top. They're going to start off in 3rd, and we all know how hard it is to climb out of that.

"envisioning the future of games as "SHORTER, LESS EXPENSIVE""

Hmm... sounds like a certain other company's system philosiphy.

Funny how Cell shading is now "amazing" - a couple years ago, it was "kiddie" wasn't it?

DQ 9 is going to the Wii. Kingdom Hearts is up in the air (not for the 360, though), but the main Final Fantasy franchise will continue to have a home on the PS3. That's what they mean - EGM's rumours were right!

Bbop, only the X360 power supply can put out 1.21 jiggawats of power anyway.

$40 for an X360 pad is just as much of a "rip off" as $20 for a Nunchuk. Extra analog sticks and d-pads cost pennies to add onto the circuit board. Rumble motors/accelerometers/etc - none of these are all that expensive. Microsoft, however, is gouging even more than Nintendo is because their controllers are one of the ways they cut down the losses taken on the console.

Nintendo pricing their controllers is their way of recouping the millions spent in R&D on the tech. Next year, in July, there will be a price drop on the console and likely the controllers as well.

You people are such tools, sometimes, honestly... (this includes the individuals with the wonderfully sly comments on its price).

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/controller/102505%20002.jpg

How much are you paying for THAT, again?

And unfortunately, the $299 core is NOT competetive for the listed reasons. call it the $340 core. Hell, if you want to do ANYTHING over XBox Live with your console, you NEED the hard drive (not a memory card). Call it the $399 core. Or wait... that's the premium! Golly, that $299 sounds a lot less like a deal, doesn't it? It's a joke that people even bring up the $300 core to try and make it seem like a lot more of a bargain than it truly is. Bottom line, in EVERY possible way (except controllers) the Wii is much much cheaper. The holiday shopping season will prove that to you.

So... 30... how do you save games with your core 360? Does it involve a $40 memory card or a $100 hard drive? (add to price). What about if you want a wireless controller? What about wanting a wireless network hookup, as is included in the Wii? (add to price). What about if you were a parent and were purchasing the 360 core... you'd want to buy your kids a game, too, right? It doesn't include one in the box (add to price).

The core 360, at a very minimum, is $340, NOT $299. And thanks to Sony's $500-600 entry point, the price of the 360 won't be dropping until next year at the very earliest. How do I know this? Because big daddy Gates told his XBox division that if they don't at least break even on the 360 by 2008, the XBox division goes bye-bye. They are already losing over $100 per XBox 360, do you really think that they want to INCREASE those losses, at the risk of dropping out of the console race?