You do know blacks were still fighting for rights during WW2 right and even after. And thank you for tell those uppity blacks that they have no right to be upset. they past is the past get over it, hell you should thank white people cause now you can vote for one of you to be president. everything is even stevens
I just wanna know where N Gai said that this game was racist or should be banned? Cause i dont see it, so whats this anger about.
He just pointed out that he and a lot of his white colleagues felt a bit uneasy by the images. I wish there was someone that would have done the same for Sega when they put out Crazy Taxi.
But Dang now that N Gai has said something i wont get a chance to kill a bunch of black zombies, cause that is the only way this could be a great game.
This isnt the first time Microsoft has brought this up. I remember when they first introduced the vision camera for the 360 they said it can already do those cool things and even recognize when multiple users are in frame. They have yet to impliment its use tho and i wonder why? With the Wii being the new pet rock and all, they could get in on some of that casual money.
#52 I really wish i could tell you the company that he pitched to, that made the comment. The funny thing is we decided to try and get funding from some rich black guys and they didnt want to take a chance on us unless we had EA behind us.
#54 i think you missed what i was saying, Altho the Def Jam game had some rappers that themselves promote negative stereotypes in it it was also the only game of its kind it was also a great game. I said that we are still gamers so the fact that the characters in the game look like i do or the fact that i can create a character that looks like me pushed it over the top. Would i prefer that the game had characters that were not just thugs and gangstas yeah, but at the same time i said i dont want to see those games go away i want to be able to buy both a game thats like def jam and a game that has a positive roll also.
As for Madden what i was saying is if you check most black american guys homes they will have more sports games then others, and its not just because we love sports, cause i know i dont like sports much myself.
Logikil you cant be serious that you find it ok that you have to pretend the charaters you play in games are latino, instead of being given the choice to play as an actual one? I dont want every game to star black people or latinos or asians, i would just like to see it at least a few times a year. Honestly asians have it better, i can name a lot of games that give them good positive lead rolls. But as for us black guys and gals,we dont get to benifit from being the majority of game designers. A friend of mine has been pitching a game for the past 2 years and he has decided to give up on it. The game was set in a mostly brown world. The good guy is black and so are the bad guys, he is always told that the game sounds cool and his demo was great, then they say the changes they would make it they take on the game, They almost always want to turn the hero white and if he cant be white then they want him to be a gangmember or drug dealer out for revenge and they wanted to ad a gangsta rap soundtrack. So like 6 months ago he started trying to find ways to produce this game independantly, but has found that investors tend to believe that people will not buy a game with the a black hero. My favorite comment was if people wanted to play as a black man the would just pick up NBA street, and then he said there has never been a sucessful game with a black hero and thats why you dont see them made.
Thats crap and i wish i could tell you who said that but my friend said he could be sued if i did.
Yeah i dont think warcraft is racist and i do think games like Total Overdose are racist(but dont know they are)(i bought this game for my nephew who is half mexican and i had to take it back its one thing that the game sucked but the fact that it had almost every stereo type you can think of for mexicans in it was worse). Why is it so painful for you guys who claim there is no racsim in games to hear that some of us find that there is? I
This guys examples sucks but his point is valid. There is racism in the games industry no doubt, but it isn't the usual American style racism. Its more of a lack of knowledge or sensitivity of other cultures or races. From kung fu to crazy taxi to gta to indigo prophecy alot of game have content that developers dont realize is offencive. I dont think they are trying to do it they just dont know better. The japanese base thier view of blacks mostly from what they see from US and Europe, and for the longest they got bad sterotypes.
Its not just that the lack of other races in lead roles can ad to the alienation of races, one of the reason Black Americans tend to own mostly sports games is because thats one of the few time they can play a game as themselves. Hell you dont know how big it was when Def Jam came out, it wasnt because these were all rappers but because finally we got a fighter too, San Andreas is the same thing, of course just like any other gamer, Black gamers value quality over content so all of those so called urban games that followed got ignored. What was worse is that now we finally get games and they represent the worst of us. Gangsters, killers, pimps, is that all the game industry think we are? And when we arent those stereotypes, we are just sidekicks, who speak jive.
You can dismiss it when people tell you something needs changing and go about thing as if they are crying wolf if you like. That would be sad.(i will never understand why people get so mad about papers like this it not like it said all ganers are racist?) It would take so little for a pretty good industry like gaming to make thing a little more inclusive.
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Apr 11th 2008 2:47PM (Joystiq)He just pointed out that he and a lot of his white colleagues felt a bit uneasy by the images. I wish there was someone that would have done the same for Sega when they put out Crazy Taxi.
But Dang now that N Gai has said something i wont get a chance to kill a bunch of black zombies, cause that is the only way this could be a great game.
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Jun 3rd 2007 2:24PM (Joystiq)Researcher slams games for "blatant racism"
Jul 25th 2006 5:31PM (Joystiq)I really wish i could tell you the company that he pitched to, that made the comment. The funny thing is we decided to try and get funding from some rich black guys and they didnt want to take a chance on us unless we had EA behind us.
Researcher slams games for "blatant racism"
Jul 25th 2006 5:27PM (Joystiq)i think you missed what i was saying, Altho the Def Jam game had some rappers that themselves promote negative stereotypes in it it was also the only game of its kind it was also a great game. I said that we are still gamers so the fact that the characters in the game look like i do or the fact that i can create a character that looks like me pushed it over the top. Would i prefer that the game had characters that were not just thugs and gangstas yeah, but at the same time i said i dont want to see those games go away i want to be able to buy both a game thats like def jam and a game that has a positive roll also.
As for Madden what i was saying is if you check most black american guys homes they will have more sports games then others, and its not just because we love sports, cause i know i dont like sports much myself.
Researcher slams games for "blatant racism"
Jul 25th 2006 11:52AM (Joystiq)Honestly asians have it better, i can name a lot of games that give them good positive lead rolls. But as for us black guys and gals,we dont get to benifit from being the majority of game designers.
A friend of mine has been pitching a game for the past 2 years and he has decided to give up on it. The game was set in a mostly brown world. The good guy is black and so are the bad guys, he is always told that the game sounds cool and his demo was great, then they say the changes they would make it they take on the game, They almost always want to turn the hero white and if he cant be white then they want him to be a gangmember or drug dealer out for revenge and they wanted to ad a gangsta rap soundtrack.
So like 6 months ago he started trying to find ways to produce this game independantly, but has found that investors tend to believe that people will not buy a game with the a black hero. My favorite comment was if people wanted to play as a black man the would just pick up NBA street, and then he said there has never been a sucessful game with a black hero and thats why you dont see them made.
Thats crap and i wish i could tell you who said that but my friend said he could be sued if i did.
Yeah i dont think warcraft is racist and i do think games like Total Overdose are racist(but dont know they are)(i bought this game for my nephew who is half mexican and i had to take it back its one thing that the game sucked but the fact that it had almost every stereo type you can think of for mexicans in it was worse).
Why is it so painful for you guys who claim there is no racsim in games to hear that some of us find that there is?
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Researcher slams games for "blatant racism"
Jul 24th 2006 10:50PM (Joystiq)Its not just that the lack of other races in lead roles can ad to the alienation of races, one of the reason Black Americans tend to own mostly sports games is because thats one of the few time they can play a game as themselves. Hell you dont know how big it was when Def Jam came out, it wasnt because these were all rappers but because finally we got a fighter too, San Andreas is the same thing, of course just like any other gamer, Black gamers value quality over content so all of those so called urban games that followed got ignored. What was worse is that now we finally get games and they represent the worst of us. Gangsters, killers, pimps, is that all the game industry think we are? And when we arent those stereotypes, we are just sidekicks, who speak jive.
You can dismiss it when people tell you something needs changing and go about thing as if they are crying wolf if you like. That would be sad.(i will never understand why people get so mad about papers like this it not like it said all ganers are racist?)
It would take so little for a pretty good industry like gaming to make thing a little more inclusive.