sillypatterson

I wanted to love this game so much. But after (a grueling, reluctant) four hours, I turned the game off for the last time and sold it back to GameStop. D:

I just couldn't get past the whole... aesthetic of it. You see, I work as a manager at a convenience store in a town where the average income level is decidedly middle-class. My customers between the ages of 16-24 are vapid, fashion-obsessed morons who would have a crisis if you asked them to get off their phone long enough to do some honest work for themselves, rather than living off of their parents' money. They loiter in the parking lots, doing drugs, having no sense of responsibility. "The world ends with me..." seems like a sentiment many of them share. And nothing, yes -nothing- is more pathetic than a rich white kid who thinks he's a hardcore gangsta.

No, I'm not a cranky old man. I'm 23. But after dealing with stupid, lazy, materialistic fucks for so long, I have zero tolerance. TWEWY feels like a game that emulates and glorifies the lifestyle I despise so much. There will be a lot of people who find this game comforting, a justification for their mindless ways, much like when I was a teenager, there were others who loved Final Fantasy VIII for its 'emo' lead role. But not me. Bring on a game that's 'realistic' for someone who isn't self-absorbed and obsessed with popular culture, Square-Enix!

Oh man, so many. Deep Labyrinth was astounding and provided a unique experience I haven't found elsewhere on the DS. Contact, too, should've done better... I would've loved more of that. Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, too. I've got a feeling that when the numbers come in, I'm going to want to add Shiren the Wanderer, too. D:

@heroinmonkey

Logic? No, you're not using -that-. Think.

Every single slot-1 card that can boot the ROM 'clean' has no issue. Every single card that cannot, ie. ones that patch it, do. I simply can't see how you could be so thick as to not see the link between this and a CRC-related anti-piracy measure.

You incorrectly stated that it's not happening to the majority of flashcarts. On the market, R4s outnumber CycloDS by a large margin. It fails on every single R4. As I explained previously, it -doesn't- fail on certain flashcarts because those flashcarts don't alter the game's data to boot it, giving the checker nothing to find.

Anyway, enough conjecture. Let's try logic. Over on GBATemp, there's an undub project for the game. For those not familiar, this is where English voices are replaced with the Japanese voices from the original game. This project was stopped short when, to his surprise, the moment the ROM was altered, he began getting "Thank you for playing" messages and resets at semi-random intervals on his CycloDS, a card that's confirmed to work fine. Why did this happen? Does the CycloDS have a 'firmware bug' too?

Nope. As I previously stated, and by god please don't let it go over your head this time too, FFCC:RoF has an anti-piracy measure that checks its code via CRC or a very similar method, and upon detecting a discrepancy, it waits a certain amount of time, displays a happy picture, and dumps you out of the program. Flashcarts that patch or require patching (M3/R4/Supercard SD/DSTT/many others) will trigger this, ones that don't (CycloDS/Acekard/NinjaPass) are fine.

How can you possibly look this in the face and dismiss it with nothing but empty words? Must've voted for Bush... twice. :P

Dio:

Unless the team can make a flashcart that's dependant on patching the ROM to make it boot... boot without patching it... this is unlikely. :P

Oh, you silly non-technical people. It's incredibly -obvious- that it is indeed an anti-piracy measure, and I'll explain why.

The vast majority of DS flashcarts in circulation patch the ROMs to get them to boot on the DS, whether it's on-the-fly or before it's even loaded onto the cart. Every twenty minutes or so, the game compares its CRC to its expected CRC. If it's running on a legitimate cart (or one of the flashcarts that has true clean ROM support, like the CycloDS), it passes the check and the game continues. If the CRC differs (which it will when patched as the R4 and many others do), it displays the screen and restarts.

I honestly can't see how anyone could think it's a 'firmware bug' causing the game to 'glitch out'. Anyone with even the smallest amount of real-world programming experience, or hell, even common sense and an eye for discrepancy, can see that it's a calculated anti-piracy measure.

Anyone looking to 'fix' this problem has a few options available to them:

1) The firmware could be modified so that when patched, the proper CRC is produced. This method is nigh impossible as far as I understand CRCs.

2) The firmware could be modified to patch the ROM at a very low level so that the CRC produced post-patching is considered correct. This is possible, but would be damn difficult to implement, considering what they've got to work with.

3) The firmware could be modified to boot this particular ROM image 'clean', allowing the piracy check to be bypassed as it is on legit carts and clean-rom flashcarts. I'm not sure if this is possible, however; I'm not familiar with the documentation of the R4 et al.

However it's done, I expect it'll be done soon... don't discount human ingenuity.

Regardless, any of these methods will take time. The copy protection is brilliant in that it's giving a serious delay to being playable on the majority of flashcarts (and don't misunderstand, this is what copy protection is generally for: delay), while still giving players a taste of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if many end up buying it before it's fixed.

The cat in the puzzle looks really pissed. :(

Rabites give the best hugs.

If there's an English release of this, I'm on it in a heartbeat.

Some sort of official flashcard to store things downloaded from a special Nintendo Online Store. Similar to the VC, but instead of interfacing through the Wii like so many suggest, why not tap the much larger DS market directly? Give 8GB of semi-cheap flash rewritable memory, access from Nintendo WiFi Connection or game stores, and maybe throw in a certain number of free downloads to offset the cost of the card itself. There could be classic games (GBA, NES, GBC, etc), demos, videos, etc.. similar to the kiosks, but with a much bigger selection and you'd get to keep the stuff after you downloaded it.

Win? :D

What's gay about a girl wooing a guy?