Assassin's Creed 360 has superior AI, says Ubisoft producer [update 2]

Actually, I disagree that both companies are the same. While Microsoft is an evil empire and have taken down companies left and right using various tactics over the years, with the 360 this company has done nothing but try their very hardest to deliver the best game console, games, and services to gamers. I do not feel this is the case for Sony. Sony is trying to push both the Cell and Blu-Ray, using gamers across the world to win their format-war. They lie and say that BD is useful for gaming, when most people will tell you it isn't needed...it only adds cost. Sony attacks Microsoft by name-calling, putting down the 360 at every possible juncture, while MS has yet to blatanly put down the PS3. It's pathetic that they have to resort to this. All MS does is talk up the 360, rather than talk down the PS3, and do their best to deliver games and content to gamers. There is no comparison between Peter Moore and Ken Kutaragi. Say what you want about Microsoft...they are here to make money just like Sony, but it is the way they go about business, and the way they listen to gamers and cater to the gamer that make me root for them in this case.

Uhh actually it does support 1080p native, It just upscales all current media...

my penis has better ai than your penis.

WOW! 100+ posts of Sony fanboy denial!

so, the 360 goes from, ugly non true HD console, to fully 1080p capable, and then moves on to be the ugly console that cant handle AC "lolololololol xbots are pwned!!!111", to them not only getting the game aswell, but the supperior version.

WOW. here let me add a "lolololololololololol"

@ #101

There's no need to try and justify what MS is doing, "catering to gamers". That's right. That's why MS goes out of it's way to buy exclusive rights from certain companies who were catering to a different console or to all consoles (Rare for example). MS and Sony are both in the "Console War", as it's come to be called, and none of them are really really catering to gamers. MS is just doing a better job now with it's PR then Sony is. Wait till the PS3 is out, and everything said here and now will be forgotten. The samething happened with the PS2, it was difficult to develop for and 90% of the PS2 launch games sucked.

If the Wii lives up to it's hype then Nintendo could actually end up doing better then both MS and Sony.

It's all about the games and in the end all MS and Sony are saying is "hardware hardware hardware hardware", "my hardware is bigger then your hardware". It's like the "Cold War" of consoles.

this is definitely another blow to the ps3. it won't break it but now i'm down another reason to get a ps3.

i'm not going to get one during launch anyway. who wants to fight historically based battles with giant crabs anyway! warhawk? blah. i'll only get a ps3 for final fantasy. and if that is no longer exclusive...

Well thats a load of crap. Ubisoft promising good AI, then what the hell went so horribly wrong on GRAW PC?

#50 you mite want to do the same! The 360 "DOSE" support 1080P "NATIVELY" It dose upscale for games that did not have 1080P But 1 game we know that will have 1080P as its native res is Halo3. Look it up. And next time know WTF you are talking about! "Idiot"

I'm not even going to bother reading half of these comments, but here's my 2 cents anyways.

When you make a game on specific hardware, obviously that game is going to be optimized to run on that hardware and it will be tricky to get it to run the same when it is ported to some other hardware.

Ok, here's a real life example. Say you have a ps2. Not a very powerful machine by today's standards, but it will play GT4 quite nicely. Now take you computer. I'm assuming it's more powerful than a PS2. (maybe running around 3GHz)Will GT4 ever run at same speed on your computer as it does on the PS2? I doubt it. I'm sure your computer could handle GT4, but unfortunatly, the game isn't optimized for it.

So before we go making random comments like "PS3 sucks, FTW! ", lets just consider that maybe Ubisoft started development on Assasin's Creed using the xbox development tools first. This would give them a chance to optimize the game to run on the xbox before they got hold of enough PS3 development kits. Had they optimized the game to run on PS3 first, I'm sure the PS3 A.I among other things would have left the xbox version in the dust. (Sorry, that last line was my inner sony fanboy talking :P)

Gamert, you must have missed the X06 keynote, where Peter Moore pointed out explicitly, that contrary to Sony's whining, the fall update for the 360 would indeed support 1080p NATIVELY, for both games (that are developed for it) and HD-DVDs, and it would ALSO upscale games and videos developed at a lower resolution.

"I remember a while back some marketing goon from Sony was saying this game's crowd AI wasn't even possible on the 360, and now the 360 is actually more adept at that very function? Sony just amazes me."

how about this: isn't it funny how marketroids talk so much BS and understand absolutely nothing from the same products they're trying to sell? Marketing is all about making your product standout in spite of its shortcomings.

regarding this one in particular, i'm guessing Ubisoft felt the M$ green love and in a quick turn around of events, suddenly felt in love with the hardware and is churning out a lot more from it than from the other architecture. money talks...

I swear I get a kick out of Sony fanboys ralying around their console to defend it, its a riot. One thing that many fail to realize is that even though the xbox 360 came out first and Sony had the chance to truly make the system superior by making it more powerfull. But in the end they failed to do so, true there are several things that the PS3 will do better than the 360 but then again the 360 can do other things better than the ps3. In the end it comes down to two things one despite what you may all think given their distinct advantages to each other they end up being equally as powerfull. The second is the ability for the developers to find the way to exploit the technology to its fullest capabilities. MS seemed to have realized this months ago and actually did something about it, they released XNA, which is the development tool given to the developers so they can be able to more easily develop games for the 360. At this point it seems Sony has failed it develop such a tool, maybe in the future they will. But no doubt the XNA software should get better.

"All MS does is talk up the 360, rather than talk down the PS3"

and how exactly is Kutaragi talking down the 360 if he doesn't acknowledge competition exists? It's the same tactic of M$: let's just talk about our machine.

Wow, I see the Sony Defense Force is in full damage control. I get quite a kick seeing aZn_1080p so pissed off about the truth that he resorts to insinuating Jade Raymond was "paid off" and that MS is "monopolizing the industry." Wow, that's kinda' like the pot calling the kettle black there eh sore loser?

LOL x 100! Sony Fanboys, just shut up and get a 360...

Well whether it's true or not (though the rumble thing sounds feasible) stuff like is comedy gold when you consider how much and how often future PS3 zealots boast about stuff they haven't even tried (A new system).

Of course personally I would still like the PS3 to be good, competition is healthy (keep MS on it's toes).

Lack of vibration is a big reason I'm far happier playing multi-format games on the 360 (Oh and the games are cheaper, the console is cheaper and the gfx are virtually identical if not better in certain cases according to some early reports).

@96 Will,

AI is AI, be it crowds, enemies, zombies, ninjas, or giant crabs. Try to think about the bigger picture, rather than focusing than a single game.

I wish oblivion had crowds like AC x.x and can't wait to get this game for meh xbox 360

"Sony fanboys are the most amusing of all the fanboys. It's as if the PS3 is some sort of *top secret* hardware "puzzle" that developers have to "figure out." "Once they crack the code and unlock the 'secret' power of the PS3,"

Its called 'learning the hardware' moron. Look at what developers accomplished once they 'unlocked' the ps2's 'secrets': Ico, Shadow of Colossus, God of War, MGS3,Final Fantasy etc.. games that are grahpically intensive and were somehow 'NOT' supposed to be able to run on the PS2. Now imagine what will happen when those same developers have MORE power to 'unlock'!!

As for people saying "MS is easier to develop for" that may be true. But the Dreamcast was "easyto develop" for also and looked what happend to it. Oh yeah Peter Moore was on that ship too wasnt he?? hmmm. some food for thought MS fanboys. ALso REMEMBER SONY HAS NEVER BEEN FIRST TO MARKET.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/23/microsofts-1080p-lets-you-read-the-fine-print/

yes, the xbox 360 DOES do 1080p NATIVELY

jojo

Sega had no 3rd party support. I look around and see killer 3rd party games comming some exclusive to the 360

Sega lost alot of money with the sega cd befor it and since sega was a consolke maker they could not afford to lose money

Microsft has huge cash reserves, the have 3rd party support and they have a killer proven online system

If any company is loooking like sega thats sony. Sony had a corporate shakedown and now an american is running a japanese company. They have not shown a profit but in 1 quarter the last 24 months.

There stock proce as fallen 20+ percent sionce May

TYhe console just got delayed again in pal and they are having problems even manufactoring them which is much diff than what happened with the xbox. Ms decided at the last min to add more ram after epic showed them gears of war running on 256 and than on 512. they spent 900 million to make the 360 much better and only 2 factories made the ram the 360 used. there were delays. MS'S pnly mistake was trying to make the console better. Sony is trying to give us high priced top of the line tech that when its all said and done only benefit sony.

U better belive that if ps3 has a hard time heads at sony will roll and there may not be a ps4. The new ceo could care less. He was brought into right the ship and the ps3 was decided befor he got there. But belive me he will cut whats bleeding and unless the ps3 sells tons of bluray movies and games the ps3 will sink sony.

Call MS sega but ur being blind. Sony has been in trouble for some time now.

next MS is releasing vista. Another cash cow. on top of that majoprity of pc games willl need vista to be played. And ms is releasing pc games uner its GAMES FOR WINDOWS brand. so they will get a chunk of all these pc games.

MS is looking helthy right now. With its windows brand for games players can use xbox 360 assecorries with ease if they want or launch games from media center. This will sell even more accessories cause just as their are pc gamers who love mouse and keyboard there are plenty more that love a controlller. And in the model plan sony and Ms use they need to sell software and accessories to make money. So now u see MS is looking quite healthy regardles of what the xbox 360 does in japan.

Now lets talk europe. They boyght 40 percent of the ps2's last gen. Manby are quite pissed sony said basicaly they were thrid rate. So this holiday europeans will pick up 360's as theres no ps2 to be found. with pro evo soccer, fifa, gears of war, and a price dropped bundle its a no brainer. The theres forza but that may not be till march so we won't mention that

IN a nut shell sony may not have ever been forts to market but they never failed to show up with 2 delays befor either

than u look at the facts its never been this muhc more than its competition, and it beat the xbox last gen because it was at market first had an installed base so devs we reluctatnt to go to the xbox. Thats very diff this time around. Buy your ps3 and enjoy it my friend but expect sonyls domminance to ahve ended. no rumble and 100-200 more maybe more if ms lowers the price. killer games exclusivce to the 360.

ur blind if u think this is a dreamcast. dreamcast had nio madden, what cinsoel do u think the madden challenge is on now? for 5 years it was ps2 for this gen thats right xbox 360. that right there is another sign. what advantage do u thin sony got from having a killer football game contest excl;usive to their conso0le? yeah ponder that one 2

here u jojo

artcile on how the new ceo works. he has nothing todo woth the ps3 and will cut it if he neeeds to. his job is to return the comonay to profit. take what u wnat from it

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7109049/

"insinuating ... that MS is 'monopolizing the industry.'"

the Department of Justice declared M$ a monopoly before the Bush administration. He's not insinuating anything, just stating a well known fact for anyone with eyes.

It's no secret that the PS3 sucks at game logic. It does great physics engines and rendering effects, but AI and botmapping is very counter intuitive for it's architecture.

More and more sony failures/bumbling/mistakes/etc. Do these guys really have any fans left that aren't extremists? I'd hope not.

There's been no official Yay or Nay about the Wii version of this game. I could imagine the developers ferreting away with it at the momment seeing if they can get enough from the system to maintain the core elements of the game.

People keep talking about the AI needing too much CPU, but really we just can't tell. I'm an ex game developer, so not clueless regarding AI, physics etc, and it's hard to think of having such complex AI that 60 people on-screen at once (The number they're touting) couldn't be handled on a Wii.

Basically, if what you'd initially developed (for 360 and PS3) wasn't running fast enough on the Wii, I'm sure they can come up with another implementation to make it work.

Let's hope. This is the only title I've seen to date that I'll miss not having on the Wii.

Well Well WELL... i bet some ps3 fanboys are really crying their hearts out right about now :|

The 360 is a machine that PS3 fanpussy's underestimate. They hate it so much and it's so damn funny. The PS3 is made by Japs. The 360 is American and yet this massive bunch of AMERICAN PS3 fanpussys envy and wish hell on MS. Sad. PS3 fanboys have no lives, they are such fucktards.

"The PS3 is made by Japs. The 360 is American"

God save the Queen!

Apparently it was all a severe misunderstanding, and that there are virtually no differences between the two games, save for Live Achievements. What Jade Raymond meant to say was that the methods for developing the AI is different.

UbiSoft stated:

"While the method for distributing AI load is different on each platform, the AI code itself is the same. Players will experience the exact same crowd results on PS3 and Xbox360."

taken from: http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=10759

Hey Gamert guess what the new Software update on the 360 allows it to Support 1080p NATIVELY, the XB360 won;'t upscale anything unless its 720 or something.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13877

[UPDATE] After getting word of Sony's comments Microsoft told GameDaily BIZ that contrary to the SCEA statement, "The facts are that with this software update, video and game content developed for 1080p will be output at 1080p -- native, not upscaled. Only content developed for lower resolutions will be upscaled."