Why Uncharted 2 couldn't work on Xbox 360

30% of the PS3 is about 50% of the 360... and thats if tis properly coded other wise tis more 30% ps3 25% 360 0-o .....

ah modern programmers how lazy you are....

Any PS3 game could probably run better on the PC and 360 with all the effort it took just to get it to run on just the PS3......

changing discs would defeat the continuous gameplay feature of uncharted.
but naughty dog is also a sony owned company and they only make games for sony consoles.
so who is naughty dog going to favor?
talking to naughty dog is like talking to sony in a way.

we dont need HD lossless audio, that just fills up the disc.

i bet if you dropped the unneeded audio and put MP on 1 disc and SP on 1 disc the game would run fine on 18 GB- 2 discs, allowing for continuous gameplay.


and 100% of the ps3 power potential is not even recognized today or even been used....

games improve over the years on the same console, and naughty dog is trying to say that they have reached the full potential of the ps3 in 2010 ?
i beg to differ. nice try though.

there will be better looking ps3 games to come and more potential will always be found.

I still can't name enough exclusive games on the PS3 to make it worth owning. Really, I don't care about God of War or Gran Turismo. Little Big Planet looks dumb - why would I want to buy a game that requires me to make it myself? Killzone wasn't good on the PS2, so why would I care about it on PS3? Honestly, I can only name Uncharted, (possibly) Resistance, Heavenly Sword (maybe), and what else? Yakuza? Is it even coming anymore?

I know I'll get voted down, but I'm just making an honest commentary on why I don't yet own a PS3.

MGS4 was repeated code.. keep the seek times down, wasn't it 4 installs...

After every multiplatform given equal development time has looked superior on the 360, I find it incredibly cute when ps3 fanboys even attempt a condescending attitude.

I haven't seen any game that looks as good as this or Killzone 2 on an Xbox, so they're probably right.

In it's current state, no it couldn't be possible on the Xbox 360. If they were to dumb the game down some, and compress it or split the game into multiple discs, however, it could be possible on the Xbox.

The best looking game on the Xbox 360 is Gears of War 2, which is practically equal to Unreal Tournament 3 on the PS3 (on a custom map that is).

I've even got more mad respect for Naughty Dog for lending their expertise to 3rd parties, but they should also consider licensing their engine the same way Epic and Valve do theirs. All that hard work shouldn't go unrewarded (besides profiting from their games, of course).

Uncharted wouldn't work with the Xbox 360 because the Xbox 360 can't play gay games.

Uncharted 2 isn't using 100% of the PS3's power. You can never really max out a console. It can be pushed far, but you can't really max it out. Just look at PS2. A ton of games. In 2005 people pretty much thought the PS2 was maxed out. Then all of the sudden, GOD OF WAR II. It looked nearly as good as an earlier 360 game. So you can't say that a game maxes out a console, because its not true. But Uncharted 2 looks insanely good. One of the best this gen.

Anyone who believes this rubbish deserves everything they get.

The only reason Uncharted 2 couldn't possibly work on a 360 is that Naughty Dog are owned entirely by Sony, who couldn't possibly allow them to develop for the 360.

There's nothing in Uncharted that couldn't be made to work on the 360. If Capcom can make Resident Evil 5 look like it did, with a cross-platform engine no less, then it's clear that Uncharted-level visuals are quite possible on the 360. It's merely a matter of money.

And since Sony is paying out that money, it's in their best interests to make BS claims that are picked up and regurgitated by fantards.

lol that's 100%?

this is one lame pathetic attempt by Sony PR to disguise their marketing speil by trickling it down to the very devs themselves. that contract must've been top dollar to include "lies" in the collective agreement.

anyone with half a brain knows ND is talking out of their ass and being paid to say this to prop up the ps3 as some phenomenal gaming device when technically, it's just a tangled one.

According to Dice, x360 has 6 hw threads, ps3 has 2 hw threads and 6 "great" spu's.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,693558/DirectX-11-Frostbite-2-engine-Battlefield-uses-Compute-Shader-for-Deferred-Shading/News/&menu=browser&entity_id=213886&image_id=1181453&article_id=693558&page=1

Okay, Uncharted 2 could not work on the 360. So, what? It doesn't matter, does it? That's like if Bungie said Halo couldn't work on PS2, right? I mean it couldn't. With the bump mapping and textures and etc... But that wouldn't have mattered, PS2 still had great games. Point is, it doesn't matter what developers say can't be created on another system (especially a developer that is the bitch of a rival company), what does matter is what CAN be created on that system. In perspective, I still play Persona 3 (thank you full BC), but not Uncharted... I still play Lumines (XBLA), but not Gears of War 2. Uncharted 2 couldn't work on 360? Moot.

The QUALITY(haha) of Uncharted and MGS4 is not that insane. They're really good games, but when they're taking up entire blue ray discs I'm expecting something ridiculous. The PS3 and 360 both have amazing games that are all generally just as good as the next in terms of visuals and gameplay(this is part of the reason why I have a hard time believing this) when referring to AAA titles(whether it be u2, mgs4, infamous, gears, mass effect, alan wake, conviction, etc.). You'll see some games that look better on 360(easier to develop for) and you'll see some game that look better on the PS3(overall more powerful). However the gap will never be that big. It just comes down to personal preference and what games you personally like playing more.

"They have already shown plenty of videos. What the hell are you talking about?"
Ummm I just said what I was talking about... if that makes any sense. I didn't say they should show videos. I said they should continue showing more videos.

"Uh, no. Sadly, there's no other game on any other console that looks as good as Uncharted 2 on the PS3."
Thats your(fanboy) opinion. If sony announced Rage being an exclusive or Crysis 2 or some random new IP that blew my mind and said this is only possible on PS3 then I would be interested. I just don't feel its necessary to make information like this known.

Uncharted 2 is a very good game, but It can definitely work on the 360, if not better... Here's the reason why is... Naughty dog just admitted that the RSX GPU in the PS3 was not up to par for Uncharted 2, so they had to offload a lot of graphics work on the SPU's in the Cell... And while that enabled the game to be awesome, they essentially cheated out all the AI in the game... The CPU (Cell) is responsible for AI and gameplay code, and due to the extreme linear gameplay format of Uncharted 2, they can get away with it...

Besides that point, they had to use assembly to code the Cell in order to maximize the Cell's potential, which game developers dread very much... This is due to a core limitation the PS3 has compared to the Xbox 360... The PS3 is limited to only 2 general purpose execution threads, and it only has one general purpose core.. The Xbox 360 has a total of 6 general purpose execution threads, so it's a lot easier to through code into the 360...

So we have Xbox 360 at 6 general purpose execution threads, and the PS3 at only 2 general execution threads...

The Xenos GPU in the 360 is far superior to the RSX GPU in the PS3... Naughty dog admitted to it, by offloading graphics work to the Cell... Actually, the Xbox GPU is the only GPU in existence (in the market) with unified shaders, and that the xbox 360 is built around the GPU, serving as the North-bridge... If you don't know what that is look it up.... The 360 works in the opposite fashion as the PS3, as the 360 offloads computation to the CPU, and the GPU does all the heavy work... Shader code gets executed much quicker in the xbox than the PS3 because of the GPU... But the Uncharted 2 is cheating by throwing shader code to the CELL...

Now to prove that Uncharted 2 can run, if not run better on the xbox 360... The Xbox 360's 3 general purpose cores are 100% identical to the single general purpose core in the Cell used by the PS3.... This is because both processor cores were designed by IBM, which partnered with both Sony and Microsoft to supply the processor cores... They only difference are the added SPU's in the Cell, which was designed by a collaboration between IBM, Sony, and Toshiba... IBM took that same core and sold Microsoft a processor with 3 of them on one die, plus some other minor customizations...

Anything programed in assembly will work much better than using libraries, and since the processor cores are the same, the same assembly written for Uncharted 2 should be able to work in the xbox 360... The only thing the xbox needs is an extra instruction in the code to interpret and emulate the tasks written for the SPUs translated onto the Xbox GPU, which can do a better job with shader code than a CPU can... The extra 4 execution threads in the xbox 360 can be used for this task.. Coupled with that fact that Uncharted 2 code is only complied in 2 threads, the remaining 4 execution threads can be used to through in more improvements to the game, and thus make the game better than it is on the PS3.... Let the debate begin...