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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:25PM Milf Biggenson said

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You can buy a perfectly decent introductory Fender Squier Strat for about $180, full-size, which plays and sounds very decent. The pickups, neck, machine heads aren't the greatest but they will certainly get you going. It's not something you'll play with forever, but it sure beats the canoe paddles with strings they used to call "introductory" when I was a kid.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:29PM Milf Biggenson said

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That being said, I wonder how games like this get the greenlight or the seed money? You're not going to take down Guitar Hero or Rock Band...so why bother? Why even lay down the first sentence of a design doc? I'm all for the power of positive thinking but sometimes you just have to be positive that you're going to fail. Case in point above.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:36PM ytilanigiroon said

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@Milf Biggenson

I'd assume either that they legitimately believed they would usurp one or the other in popularity - OR - they thought that one or the other would acquire them before the investors demanded a result.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:36PM MLS said

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@Milf Biggenson

Agreed, just like those who try to take on the fantasy MMO genre. Why?
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:49PM Milf Biggenson said

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@ytilanigiroon Wow, I actually never thought of that reason. That actually makes a helluva lot of sense. You could be on to something with that. I mean, why else would any development studio bother?
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:52PM Dr said

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@Milf Biggenson I wonder if they just didn't give up and push the game out the door once they saw RB3's pro mode. It's quite possible that was the market they were aiming for.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:16PM PN04 said

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@Dr I agree, they probably figured "this is the greatest idea ever! A real guitar in a guitar game no one will ever beat--" And then HMX announced pro-mode.

In a perfect word (at least as far as Power Gig is concerned) HMX would have never announced it and they would have had much more time to work on making it at least a "fair" product, but in order to get it out the door by the time RB3 hit to avoid being left in the dust, they rushed it out hoping that the excitement of a new paradigm in rhythm gaming would get them a bunch of sales before people realized how bad it was, the upside being you got a cheap guitar you could actually play if you ever learned how to use it.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:34PM Weirdo Beardo said

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@Milf Biggenson Well I seem to recall hearing about this game before Harmonix first announced the addition of real guitar to RB3, so I assume they were intending to ride the gimmick of being the only game with a real guitar, only to scream a star wars-esque Nooooooooooooooo!(or Do not want! if you will) when they found out they would not be the only game in town with that trick.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 5:16PM BlueRajasmyk said

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@Milf Biggenson
-1 for "you can't fight the man so don't even try"...
IF they had built a decent game, they could have absolutely usurped Rock Band's and Guitar Hero's popularity
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 6:27PM MNeko said

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@Milf Biggenson They were hoping that the hype and the dumb PR stunts (these were the guys that dumped thousands of Guitar Hero guitars into an active volcano, right?) would move units.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 9:01PM Cameage said

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@BlueRajasmyk

That's not true. If they had built a decent game, they still wouldn't have "usurped" RB or GH. They'd have sold a few games, and they still would have been a distant third. If they had built a phenomenal game that was worth every penny, they might have rivaled RB/GH, but RB still would have been better.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2010 2:16PM MrAnon said

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@ytilanigiroon
I think I have the answer. A review of the controller/guitar on http://www.neocrisis.com/news/135-game-news/5856-power-gig-limited-edition-full-size-guitar mentions that Seven45 Studios is a sister company (subsidiary?) of FirstAct (a huge company specializing in, as the name implies, intro-level musical instruments). And guess who's making PG's guitars?

So my theory is that PG (and the developer) are just tools to increase FirstAct's sales. The quality of the game doesn't matter much since the actual goal isn't game sales but guitar/drum sales. All the instruments "bought" by Seven45 for game bundles will show as "sales" on FirstAct's books - artificially inflating the company's profit figures (kinda like how Soundgarden got it's album certified platinum without a single retail sale - Neversoft bought enough copies to bundle with GH6 to hit the required level). Any instruments not sold by Seven45 can be written off, giving the corporation as a whole another paper profit. Of course, any actual bundled/instrument sales just let FirstAct profit twice for the same item.

I'll bet FirstAct uses this as a foot in the door to start selling "RB3 Pro compatible" guitars before the Squier is out.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:31PM GordoJones88 said

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"homunculi" - from the diminutive of homo.

Hey, I learned a new word today. I can't wait to use it.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 5:58PM Angel Mass said

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@GordoJones88

Lol in case that you are wondering what the heck is that, that is the representation of the human body making the most sensitive parts bigger and less smaller. In other words, that is how our nervous system "see" the body
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:31PM B0HICAH said

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Thank you for an amazing review on a decidedly un-amazing video game.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:32PM DazGenetic said

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"well, it plays about as well as you'd expect a $180 guitar to play. Which is to say, not well at all."

The fact that this is a crappy guitar is in no way related to the $180 price point. There are plenty of entry level guitars at that price that play perfectly well for most people.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:32PM Ospov said

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1 out of 5. Ouch.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:32PM zack11190 said

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No surprises there.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:33PM Negatron said

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Shame, my roommate has had it for about a week now. He denied the actual game only to look around his mess for his copy of RockBand. He found it...i observed. He fretted string terribly and strummed any chord he wished on RockBand. I returned to my room.

Teach you it does not. Hmph.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:44PM oJMan240o said

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@Negatron

That's because it's a game first, teaching tool second. Plus they didn't say it would actually teach you how to play a song. They said it would be able to teach you something that sounded fairly close to the song. There is really only so much something can teach you without you actually practicing. If you know how to play guitar, which I'm assuming you do because you used the proper terminology in your post, then you really shouldn't have been surprised by that. Plus there is a fairly large difference between the Power Gig guitar and the Mustang Controller and Squire Strat controller for Rock Band.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:46PM oJMan240o said

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@oJMan240o

Also, I don't know if I was wrong when took that as a completely out of place attack on Rock Band, but the grammar of that post made absolutely no sense.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:01PM Juelz345 said

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@oJMan240o

Speaking of grammar and not making sense:

"I don't know if I was wrong when took that"

...what?

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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:08PM oJMan240o said

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@Juelz345

Have some context jerk off.

"I don't know if I was wrong when took that as a completely out of place attack on Rock Band."

My grammar in that sentence is fine, regardless of whether you have the ability to recognize that fact.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:14PM Juelz345 said

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@oJMan240o

Jerk off? really? So your 12 right?

Shouldn't there maybe be a word between maybe, when and took? Like maybe "I"?

Sad that you don't see the irony. On another note:

They're just going to end all of a sudden.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 4:06PM XaiaX said

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@oJMan240o You may not have noticed that you a word there.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2010 9:00AM Negatron said

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@oJMan240o

Yeah, i'm terribad with typo's but i assure you i can read and write just fine. 98% of comments are made from work on the fly. So i will clear up what my initial post meant.

1. My friend rather rummage through an extremely messy room for RockBand 2 than play the game Gig itself. (Not a RockBand diss.)

2. I watched him play Gig Guitar but was not impressed by its functionality.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:34PM bigjf said

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I was considering this. Thanks for saving me $180. I should've known it would be some POS budget-tight title.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:48PM LunaticSoul said

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@bigjf

Well, with 180 you could get a Mustang + RB3. The Mustang does not have strings (except at the bottom), but it plays like a real guitar. That or a entry level guitar, just two different ways to rock it "real" (almost real with RB :p)
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:57PM superdarrin said

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@LunaticSoul I was under the impression that $180 was JUST for the Mustang controller, and the game would cost extra.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:17PM LunaticSoul said

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@superdarrin

You're right, the mustang costs more. 150$. Amazon.com says 205$ for Game+Mustang..Yet you can at least really learn how to play guitar basics and more.. ; ). I think RB3 still offers the perfect balance between "real" thing and videogaming.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:34PM bigjf said

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@LunaticSoul

I do intend to get RB3, but I'll be holding off for the Squier. It would be nice if US got the keyboard bundle for PS3...for the price, the Mustang doesn't entice me enough to move off my old GH controller just yet.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:37PM harusame said

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I can't say I'm surprised. Maybe they should have spent more money on developing the game and less on rival plastic guitars and plane trips over a volcano.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:39PM MLS said

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Ouch, as if this game hasn't been kicked around enough already in the promotional cycle.

Can't say I'm surprised at all though.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:39PM oJMan240o said

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This may be the worse score I have ever seen Joystiq give.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:13PM Jack Kevorkian said

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@oJMan240o It almost sounds too low. I mean the thing kind of worked right? Before I saw the stars the print didn't make me picture tears streaming down his face whilst playing the game. One star = real human tears
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:41PM Mcmax3000 said

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As downright terrible as the game looks, its soundtrack does have a couple of songs that I would love to see come to Rock Band.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:49PM XaiaX said

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@Mcmax3000 That's all it has going for it.
As soon as RB3 announced pro mode, they should've cancelled their game and sold the rights to the music they'd acquired to Harmonix.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:59PM Mcmax3000 said

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@XaiaX Yeah, they should've. I was lined up next to the Power Gig booth for something at PAX so I got to stand and watch it for a few minutes. It looked dreadful.

And though it has songs I want to play, it doesn't have anywhere near enough to warrant a purchase. Only one or two.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 4:09PM XaiaX said

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@Mcmax3000

I kind of felt sorry for their pitchman at PAX. That guy looked so forlorn, it was hard not to take pity on them, you could pretty much smell their knowledge of their steadily encroaching failure and death.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:44PM Ryuk said

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And the death of unique music games begins, with the release of Rock Band 3 which is apparently, impossible to follow up

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:54PM oJMan240o said

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@Ryuk

And here we go again... people have been saying the same exact thing since Rock Band released. Will you all just stop it already? As long as there is music and people to come up with ideas there are going to be music games. Just look how long Karaoke and Dance games have been around. It's absurd to say that they are just going to end all of a sudden.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:04PM Juelz345 said

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@oJMan240o

They're just going to end all of a sudden.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:07PM oJMan240o said

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@Juelz345

Welcome to the realm of absurdity sir.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:40PM Ryuk said

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@oJMan240o

I haven't said that at all, until RB3, i mean the amount of things added is ridiculous, I just don't understand what they can add besides songs, even harmonix themselves. I'm not saying they're gonna stop releasing music games, i'm just saying I don't think there's much room left to evolve for them, the only possible place for evolution is the story department...
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 5:53PM ClowCell66 said

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@Ryuk

They still have the saxophone and/or other horns. Though those peripherals might not be suitable for sharing...
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:47PM Credge said

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1. The original recording artist who created the song probably didn't play it using two-finger power chords

They don't need to. The root and the fifth (THE TWO FINGER POWER CHORD) fits in to 99% of music. This includes the entire library of songs in the game.

You can play Hey Joe, for example, with just power chords. Doesn't mean the song was originally played this way, but it will sound just fine. This is truly a moot point.

The difference between an E, and E5, and an Eadd9 are minimal and either can almost always be used for the other despite giving different sounds. It's truly a moot point.

Otherwise, yes, this game is crap.

Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:02PM oJMan240o said

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@Credge

Let me get you some context to go along with your incessant whining.

"It is possible to turn on a 'Power Chord mode' from the pause menu, which changes some of those prompts to simple, two-finger power chords. These can, at times, make the sound coming from your guitar emulate the song you're playing along with."

And you care so much why? If the game is trying to make you feel like you are playing the music then it should use the actual notes or the closest approximation to the actual notes it can achieve, since they are all shortie 17 fret guitars. I doubt that, with a 'real' guitar, they would have had trouble making the actual notes part of the game and if Rock Band can do it then they really should have been able to do it because RB's Pro Mode is their biggest competition. If you have the ability to put the actual notes in there, then you should put the actual notes in there.

Also, he said that the powerchords approximate the sound of the song, but that the real problem was that there was a bunch of notes in there that didn't fit at all. So... you're arguing about something that he obviously knows.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 3:10PM Juelz345 said

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@oJMan240o

They're just going to end all of a sudden.
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Posted: Oct 28th 2010 2:56PM superdarrin said

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You know, I had been planning to pre-order this and abruptly changed my mind a month ago and bought an Epiphone Les Paul instead (decided I'd teach myself to play). Looks like I dodged a BIG bullet.

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