Get sad on the cheap with Tale of Tales' pay-what-you-want sale

@182

But I just did! I walked outside, hopped into my car for the 5-10 minute drive to the local graveyard, than walked about. I even brought a cane to lean on, as I got tired from all the walking. Then I sat down, as I got tired of all the leaning.

Pesonally, I think it's over-rated, needs more content, and zombies, and zombie content.

@Shadsy: Shadsy, I just wanted to thank you for being the first person I've seen to criticize Tale of Tales' work WITHOUT unfairly comparing their games to things they're not supposed to be.

@Esposch Which you played

@LTLemonLicker

I did play The Graveyard, actually.

The song was alright, but the game was atrocious.

@Warfare20

The path is nothing but a crazy telling of Little Red Riding Hood, it has a good atmosphere, but soon you find that nothing happens, just walk in the forest finding things and reading crazy texts that are there just to make you fell you are reading something "deep", a big waste of money not even at 2 cents would be a good investment, you want art?? pay a ticket for a museum, you´ll learn more there than playing this.......

@Warfare20 They are absolutely not bad, not by a long shot. I already had all three of these "games," but I bought the bundle anyway just to support Tale of Tales.

The reason Tale of Tales has so many haters is that people go into their projects expecting the wrong thing. The Graveyard, The Path, and Fatale are NOT video games. They are interactive experiences that can only be judged by their own merits. You can't say that The Path is too simple to play, because then you're comparing it to something it's not supposed to be. The Path literally has no elements of gameplay, so people need to stop comparing it to other games.

Tale of Tales' projects RESEMBLE games. And for that reason, they get grouped in with games. Which leads to misinterpretation.

If you're looking for some good games, don't buy the Tale of Tales bundle. If you're looking for some interesting, atmospheric, virtual experiences, then you should definitely check it out.

Thanks, I was about to buy this pack. I got a similar deal ( pay what you want) the humble indie bundle. That was a good 10$ well spent.

@Hank Hill
think you mean moot, not mute

@AJack

I always believe that "you didn´t know what you were playing" argument doesn´t fit in the criticism of the games for a simple reason:
The game you are playing is exactly THAT a game, you can say millions of things about it, but you can´t fool people by making a cheap excuse of a game and hiding all this with the word "art". Is like selling a car and telling the customer that the weird noise that you hear in the engine is an additional turbo mode. Once you bought it, kabooom!!!! the engine explodes.....This game was only a rip-off because they charged for a GAME, they can say art all they want but at the end they charged for it. The whole concept of art can be used in games because i do believe games are art, just look at bioshock or shadow of the colosus, both games give you an amazing artistic vision and an amazing experience. Exactly what this guys said, they said they were giving an experience, but when that experience is so buried with words that doesn´t make any sense, object and things that happen just because, then what we have is an emperor´s new clothes, we all know it was garbage but many people is afraid of saying something because well....is art, you say something bad about art then you are an idiot. Too bad that with that excuse this company just ripped off the money you could have used for anything else........

@(Unverified) How do you expect Tale of Tales to get people to buy their "interactive experiences" if the gaming press doesn't cover them? Tale of Tales' projects literally don't fit into any existing medium of entertainment. But their projects are pretty similar to games, and there's pretty much a complete overlap of people who like Tale of Tales and people who play video games. It's not even Tale of Tales' fault; it's just natural for people to group their projects in with traditional video games. If you think Tale of Tales was trying to trick you into buying The Path, then maybe you should have researched it before buying it.

It's like what the guy above me said. "The people who DID know what they were buying knew they'd like it before they paid a cent." When I first found out about The Path, I knew I would like it. I didn't want a game, I wanted something fresh and interesting. That's the demographic Tale of Tales is aiming for. If you don't have that set of interests, then don't buy the game.

If you still feel like you were cheated, then I think it's better to blame gaming journalists for not explaining Tale of Tales' projects properly.

@Jorw

How does one expect Tale of Tales to get people to buy their "interactive experiences" if the gaming press doesn't cover them? I don't know, maybe if they got the already-established contemporary art press to do it instead. At the very least, it would be much closer to their target demographic.

And, to be honest, I don't buy the whole "interactive experience" angle either. That would require there to be, you know, actual interaction. Tale of Tales's products are, in my opinion, best described as "a thing".

@Jorw


You know whats the funny thing of this??? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, they want people to argue about their "games that are art" and that´s the only way people will buy them, to "see by themself" and the funny thing is that this dirty trick works....everybody argues if they are art or not ( they aren´t BTW) but people buys them just to see by themself, hell!! they are not even pretty, the graphics sucks big time, the path looks like a game create with dark basic, but with the whole "art" thing people buys them and at the end they don´t care.....why?? because they keep the money...and we keep the emperors clothes.....and leave naked.......

@(Unverified) Who says you're the one who gets to decide what art is? Everybody has their own idea of the meaning of "art," and it is is for that reason that classifying something as "art" is stupid. I never even said that Tale of Tales' games are art. Classifying ANYTHING as art is pointless. The reason I love Tale of Tales' "games" is because they are unique, memorable, very atmospheric, and subtly creepy.

I think you're upset with Tale of Tales because they're achieving the "games as art" label in an invalid way. And you're right. The Path does not deserve to be used as an example of games as art, since it is not a game. But that issue exists because people are GIVING The Path that label. It's not Tale of Tales' fault. They're just making stuff they feel like making. And I enjoy the stuff they make.

@JohnyZuper: I feel so sorry for you guys. I can't imagine how it would feel to receive these kinds of criticisms about my own work. It's not fair.

@Jorw
I think this debate all comes down to a few simple points.

1) Research your games before you buy. Read reviews, listen to forum chatter, watch clips. If you don't think you'll like it, don't bother to buy it. Everyone wins.

2) Don't let labels like 'art game' or 'interactive experience' influence or bother you. Art is subjective, so getting hot under the collar cos one person says it's art and you disagree gets you nowhere. Either play it or don't.

3) Be open to new experiences. For me, The Path was half simple exploration game and half puzzle of understanding. I played it by writing down what I saw and heard as I played, and by the end it was clear that the real meat of the game was in understanding what it was all about. What has happened to each girl? Who is their 'wolf?' Where did they go wrong?

@JohnyZuper: Thanks for 'The Path'. Keep doing what you do :)

@sigma8
*That Game Company

@pluupy


not only you... we all were expecting "something".....