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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 11:19AM supersonic124 said

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@f8d9sadaljfda
With a name like that, How could you go wrong?
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 6:11AM FakeJamaican said

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i love L4D2, and this mutation is the bomb, but we really should of had like 10 new maps by this point. 1 or 2 in the span of a year is ridiculous. It's not like they are hard to make - the PC community barfs maps out daily. Show some updated love for 360 players please.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 6:25AM Mach2 said

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@FakeJamaican

Uh, yeah. The PC Community does indeed barf them up, that's why only about one in twenty is any good, and few (if any) match the polish and overall experience of the official campaigns.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 7:10AM BenX02 said

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@FakeJamaican

I just love how Valve gives us all this free stuff, and people still complain.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 7:24AM Faenix said

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@BenX02

Well hes obviously a 360 player, they - due to Microsoft and not allowed free updates - kind of get ignored.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 7:33AM Nolan North said

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@Faenix
It's funny because he acts like the ones the PC players make are as good as the official ones. Valve can't afford to spend all their time making new maps for a game that came out last year when they have Portal 2 to work on and Half-Life 3 to announce.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 7:49AM Faenix said

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@Nolan North

Hmm I thought it was HL2: Episode 3, not Half Life 3, that people wanted.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 8:42AM wcarnation said

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@FakeJamaican "the PC community barfs maps out daily."

Easy to do when the maps are puke.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 10:08AM Endless VertiGo said

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@FakeJamaican Isn't Valve starting to release PC mods to the 360 in the next update? Best of both worlds for me...

Creativity of the user community + a little Valve polish = Win
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 6:11PM Haggard said

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@Faenix
I'm not going to argue with either to be honest
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2010 2:10AM Mitsuo said

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@Nolan North Uhhhh what about Team Fortress 2? Game came out what...3 years ago and is still consistently getting updates? And all of it is free.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 6:23AM Mach2 said

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With my luck, I imagine I'd be under the constant assault of ten tanks.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 8:39AM Istari Spartan said

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If they combined this mutation with gibfest and tanks i'd never switch my xbox off.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 8:47AM SnorlaxTheSerialKiller said

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Isn't it funny that people complain about free stuff?

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 9:20AM Jack Kevorkian said

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@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller Unhappy people with complain about anything.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 12:49PM Vcize said

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@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller

To be fair, this wasn't technically free, but rather a part of the last $7 download on the 360 (mutations).

Calling this free is kind of like calling XBL free because you paid for it 7 months ago and are still using it.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2010 4:27PM Peril said

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@Vcize Not for PC.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 9:31AM Schlecht said

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I got no problem complaining. I want my goddamn Versus Co-Op I was promised which is the gamemode I've been waiting for since L4D1.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 12:50PM Vcize said

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@Schlecht

Do you mean just letting you play versus mode against a team of all bots?

Yeah, if that's what you mean, it's pretty ridiculous that they don't have that yet. They don't even have to do anything to make it happen, just remove the freaking conditional statement that prevents games from being started when one team doesn't have any human players.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 3:52PM Acosta02 said

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@Vcize Not quite true. The Survivor AI seems to need a human to lead them, so without one they would probably just stand around.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 10:42AM JCDoe said

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So is now the point when I finally accept that L4D1 isn't going to get anymore new cool stuff, and get a copy of L4D2?

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 11:15AM Faren22 said

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@JCDoe Yes. Now is that time.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 11:59AM shadowhowl1900 said

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so like is it possible for valve to join the band wagon?
port for ps3 plz? i can hope right?

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 12:32PM Istari Spartan said

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@Chazzr

I whole-heartedly endorse the second one.
The first time you insta-kill someone using the charger
you will fall in love.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 12:50PM SmokemeaKipper said

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How that different than playing survival mode after 10 mins? 3 tanks, 6 smokers, etc...

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 2:32PM Schlecht said

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That's exactly what I said. People always quit out of my versus matches when they aren't winning. And since I have yet to lose a versus game, that happens a lot. Actually, I can never find versus games now anyways.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 12:58PM Vcize said

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The L4D series is one of my first Valve franchises, and I've got to say I'm really not as impressed with everyone's claim that they're a "community developer" as I thought I'd be. The mutations are nice, but they're severely lacking in some really fundamental stuff.

- Team Realism Versus (the 4-player matchmaking) hasn't worked since about a week after release. It's been what, 4-5 months since it broke and they haven't even made a COMMENT about it, much less fixed it? Try and enter the team realism versus mode with a team of 4 and have it find you a team to play against. It won't work. Ever.

- Probably 30-40% of the games started fail to start with all players getting a "Lost connection to server" error. Again, not comment or fix or anything in months.

- Why can we not play a versus game against a team of bots? They (finally, after what, 2 years) added special infected bots to versus mode, and they already have survivor bots, so why can't I just go into a game of versus by myself, or with a friend, and play against all bots as survivors and infected? I can understand if they don't want us using their servers for this, but they give us the option to host our own game, so if we're hosting ourselves, why would they care? Adding this would literally take all of 5 minutes.

There are countless other little things that add up as well. Like when they had the versus survivor mode they didn't have a timer for the survivors to leave the safe area. In scavenge and versus, if you don't leave in 45 seconds it will let the infected start spawning, but not in versus survivor. Which, of course with the awesome gaming community, meant that every game you joined just had the survivors hanging out there for 15 minutes waiting for you to just quit. I could understand if they just overlooked it, but then the mutation came back like a month later and it was still the same way. Wtf.

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 1:00PM Vcize said

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@Vcize

Oh yeah, and one last thing, most of the coolest mutations aren't available in versus mode, which makes them borderline useless. Bleed out, everyone has M60's, etc. I realize they make the game unbalanced towards the survivors or infected, but since both teams play as both sides, it's still balanced between teams.

I don't want to sound too ungrateful, because I love L4D2 and love the updates that we've gotten. It's just frustrating when there are things severely holding back the game that aren't a result of them being difficult to program, but rather a result of them seemingly not ever even playing their own game to see obvious, easily fixable faults.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 3:49PM OrangeGamer said

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@Vcize That would be awesome. Reminds me of the old Goldeneye 007 days on the N64. Versus, SLAPPERS ONLY!

And I think you're absolutely right- such easy fixes, and they would be immensely fun. Versus mode can get a bit stale, so incorporating these mutations in versus and not only select ones would make it so just by selecting different conditions versus is a lot more fun again.

I'm with you though, L4D 2 is still awesome, but just a small wish.
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 8:22PM RogueJedi86 said

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@Vcize

You do know there was a special mutation called Bleed Out Versus right? It's a Versus variant on Bleed Out. I don't play many mutations, but I played that. Surprisingly easy since you bleed out so slowly. I actually made better progress on No Mercy in Bleed Out Versus than I ever did in regular Versus.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2010 1:05AM Jahdod said

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@Vcize What a negative nancy. =P
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Posted: Dec 18th 2010 3:40PM Ryuk said

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I stopped caring about L4D after the crap fest that was The Sacrifice dlc...

Posted: Dec 18th 2010 6:19PM Haggard said

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@Ryuk
Pretty rude to charge for it really, but then they didn't charge my platform - so I can continue to play without any personal consumer outrage.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2010 11:01PM Eroded Fallacy said

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I wish that Valve would do something about Half life already. I'm tired of hearing about Left 4 Dead. It was fun at first but I feel that Half life episode 3 is long over due.

Posted: Dec 20th 2010 10:15AM cpsterndog said

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@Eroded Fallacy - 100% agree. I'm still fired up over the ending of Episode 2 - let's get back to it and finish this.
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