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Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:12AM Cenofear said
oh boy. This is going to have the fanboys up in arms.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:53AM MyAbsolution said
@Cenofear
actually youve got it backwards.
fanboys of halo lore HATED the games story and the characters.
Bungie absolutely gutted the novels and reversed/altered all sorts of established canon facts to make a halfway bizarre and embarssingly bad story. Gameplay is good, story is bad.
Any true Halo fan will agree the games' stories are shite, and the novels are the real thing.
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actually youve got it backwards.
fanboys of halo lore HATED the games story and the characters.
Bungie absolutely gutted the novels and reversed/altered all sorts of established canon facts to make a halfway bizarre and embarssingly bad story. Gameplay is good, story is bad.
Any true Halo fan will agree the games' stories are shite, and the novels are the real thing.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:57AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@MyAbsolution
Any true halo fan would be spending their time enjoying the game.
Not sitting in a corner crying because a video game didn't follow the same storyline as their precious book based on a video game series.
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Any true halo fan would be spending their time enjoying the game.
Not sitting in a corner crying because a video game didn't follow the same storyline as their precious book based on a video game series.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 10:11AM MyAbsolution said
@This Little Man Says His Name Is
funny how i get downvoted for simply saying the lore isnt up to par on the games.
i do play and enjoy the games very much. probably a lot more than you :)
i said the game was good, but story bad. how is that being a crybaby?
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funny how i get downvoted for simply saying the lore isnt up to par on the games.
i do play and enjoy the games very much. probably a lot more than you :)
i said the game was good, but story bad. how is that being a crybaby?
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 10:47AM MyAbsolution said
@Integral
i said fanboys of halo lore. I think the majority were pretty vocal in their dislike of Halo reachs story. But sure disagree with that if you will.
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i said fanboys of halo lore. I think the majority were pretty vocal in their dislike of Halo reachs story. But sure disagree with that if you will.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 11:44AM DV8ing1 said
@MyAbsolution
I find it absolutely amazing that some people would base their knowledge of a story on books that were realized after the story was set within the first game. The games are what created the story and the books were supposed to be filler with more outlook on the universe.
If there were inaccuracies within the books that made you believe that the newest "game" had a bad story, you can blame the authors of said books. The games have always been the story and the novels were just put out to keep fans spending their money and to keep them interested in the series as a whole.
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I find it absolutely amazing that some people would base their knowledge of a story on books that were realized after the story was set within the first game. The games are what created the story and the books were supposed to be filler with more outlook on the universe.
If there were inaccuracies within the books that made you believe that the newest "game" had a bad story, you can blame the authors of said books. The games have always been the story and the novels were just put out to keep fans spending their money and to keep them interested in the series as a whole.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 1:03PM i77ogical said
@Integral
"You got downvoted because you implied you were speaking for all halo fanboys, when that's not even remotely true."
Wow, so if you think someone "implies" something, you get on YOUR soapbox? You should go into law enforcement in Libya or something. A comment is just that, a comment from one person. It doesn't "imply" anything, except what it says. (Don't forget to downvote me!)
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"You got downvoted because you implied you were speaking for all halo fanboys, when that's not even remotely true."
Wow, so if you think someone "implies" something, you get on YOUR soapbox? You should go into law enforcement in Libya or something. A comment is just that, a comment from one person. It doesn't "imply" anything, except what it says. (Don't forget to downvote me!)
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 2:48PM Alan Strangis said
@i77ogical "You give an opinion and get downvoted. Then someone comes along and slams you and gets upvoted.
Classic Joystiq."
Actually, I believe that's called Classic Internet. :)
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Classic Joystiq."
Actually, I believe that's called Classic Internet. :)
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 3:31PM i77ogical said
@Alan Strangis
Yeah, except only Joystiq has the asinine white-out feature.
"Ooooh, your comment makes me nervous. Must ... white ... it ... out." I only post on Halo posts anymore, because so many bullies come out from under their rocks and try to keep fans from speaking their minds.
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Yeah, except only Joystiq has the asinine white-out feature.
"Ooooh, your comment makes me nervous. Must ... white ... it ... out." I only post on Halo posts anymore, because so many bullies come out from under their rocks and try to keep fans from speaking their minds.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 4:16PM theWillard said
@DV8ing1
Nope.
The first book, Fall of Reach, which the game is based on was written alongside development of the first Halo and used various materials, including the "Bible" containing any narrative aspects of the Halo universe (characters, locations, major events, etc.) and support from Bungie thorughout. This is why the book was actually released roughly 2 weeks before the game was. Any contradictory changes that occur in the Reach game are retcons as the book had already been established as cannon within the Halo universe by Bungie.
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Nope.
The first book, Fall of Reach, which the game is based on was written alongside development of the first Halo and used various materials, including the "Bible" containing any narrative aspects of the Halo universe (characters, locations, major events, etc.) and support from Bungie thorughout. This is why the book was actually released roughly 2 weeks before the game was. Any contradictory changes that occur in the Reach game are retcons as the book had already been established as cannon within the Halo universe by Bungie.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 4:27PM theWillard said
@theWillard
Didn't even watch the video here, btw. I just find it dumbfounding that people argue about the relevance and accuracy of a story that was written under direct supervision of Bungie, the people that made the games people so often try to represent as an opposing side of the argument about the storyline in the books. Like one douchenozzle on a different board far, far away that decided to bitch about how dumb it was that they were adding a backstory for Master Chief, failing to realize that the backstory had been in place since the original game.
The interwebs is where the dumb is at.
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Didn't even watch the video here, btw. I just find it dumbfounding that people argue about the relevance and accuracy of a story that was written under direct supervision of Bungie, the people that made the games people so often try to represent as an opposing side of the argument about the storyline in the books. Like one douchenozzle on a different board far, far away that decided to bitch about how dumb it was that they were adding a backstory for Master Chief, failing to realize that the backstory had been in place since the original game.
The interwebs is where the dumb is at.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:33PM DV8ing1 said
@theWillard
I apologize for ruffling a few feathers but I'm hardly what you'd call a halo "fan" and had no idea. I had seen a few other series get books in my time and they were considered non-canon and thought it might be the same here. Either way I hated the story in halo and it just seemed a lot like man vs aliens vs other aliens with little else. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't give halo a fair shake but it never captivated me so why force it?
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I apologize for ruffling a few feathers but I'm hardly what you'd call a halo "fan" and had no idea. I had seen a few other series get books in my time and they were considered non-canon and thought it might be the same here. Either way I hated the story in halo and it just seemed a lot like man vs aliens vs other aliens with little else. I'll be the first to admit that I probably didn't give halo a fair shake but it never captivated me so why force it?
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 9:50PM maveric101 said
@kgoo867
i'm a big halo fan. i don't know why anyone was freaking out about Reach's plot; it didn't really change all that much from the books.
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i'm a big halo fan. i don't know why anyone was freaking out about Reach's plot; it didn't really change all that much from the books.
Posted: Apr 1st 2011 1:18AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@kgoo867
I've sunk hundreds of hours into all the Halo games, 1-3, reach, ODST (haven't touched wars yet).
Pretty sure that's what you'd consider a dedicated fan to a video game series and I have no problem what so ever with Reach's story.
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I've sunk hundreds of hours into all the Halo games, 1-3, reach, ODST (haven't touched wars yet).
Pretty sure that's what you'd consider a dedicated fan to a video game series and I have no problem what so ever with Reach's story.
Posted: Apr 1st 2011 1:13PM i77ogical said
@This Little Man Says His Name Is
I really don't think it's about "having a problem" with Reach's story. Few players went, huhhh???? when they played the game.
The issue raised is for the lore to be consistent on the deepest levels, for Halo to be taken seriously as more than just a video game that's fun to play, but for Halo to approach the mythos of a Star Wars, where every aspect of the universe is properly curated.
Laugh, sure, but 343 definitely has that as its goal, so changing canon that 343 itself has approved in popular Halo novels is not a good start. And changing the canon "just 'cause" makes even less sense. I didn't find the Reach video game story to be OK, but no so super compelling to justify making the Halo universe compete against itself, books vs. games.
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I really don't think it's about "having a problem" with Reach's story. Few players went, huhhh???? when they played the game.
The issue raised is for the lore to be consistent on the deepest levels, for Halo to be taken seriously as more than just a video game that's fun to play, but for Halo to approach the mythos of a Star Wars, where every aspect of the universe is properly curated.
Laugh, sure, but 343 definitely has that as its goal, so changing canon that 343 itself has approved in popular Halo novels is not a good start. And changing the canon "just 'cause" makes even less sense. I didn't find the Reach video game story to be OK, but no so super compelling to justify making the Halo universe compete against itself, books vs. games.
Posted: Apr 2nd 2011 1:28PM MDizzy said
@MyAbsolution I picked up the books before I bought Reach. I think they did a good job of weaving everything together. You were delivering one of Cortana's cores that was left behind to decipher the code discovered in the crystal. I also read the second book...man I had forgotten how tedious and repetitive the library levels were in Halo CE until I had to read about it. Seems like he spent 20 pages describing MC getting ambushed by flood clearing the room and moving on (wash, rinse, repeat).
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Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:14AM Sonictheratherquickhedgehog said
That really wasn't very funny at all.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:16AM Jimjamyaha said
@Sonictheratherquickhedgehog
Having played all the Halo games (excluding Wars), it doesn't actually make it funnier. Perhaps I should have played Wars to find it funny.
On second thought I'll just settle on this being no more than a summary of how the Noble team while not actually really making difference to the ending.
Although the Warthog flip did make me laugh out loud.
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Having played all the Halo games (excluding Wars), it doesn't actually make it funnier. Perhaps I should have played Wars to find it funny.
On second thought I'll just settle on this being no more than a summary of how the Noble team while not actually really making difference to the ending.
Although the Warthog flip did make me laugh out loud.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 12:08PM Mouthsmasher said
@Sonictheratherquickhedgehog;
I agree 100%. I didn't laugh at all.
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I agree 100%. I didn't laugh at all.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 2:16PM 343 Guilty Fart said
I chuckled at the end when the warthog flipped over and he kept driving. That was all.
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Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:24AM Shadowise said
Oddly, they didn't include Jun, the only surviving member of Nobel Team.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:56AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
@Shadowise
That's the whole point.
There's be nothing to show of Jun, he doesn't die.
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That's the whole point.
There's be nothing to show of Jun, he doesn't die.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 12:12PM Squalls Lionheart said
@Robborboy
uhhh was that in a book or do i really need to play it again???
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uhhh was that in a book or do i really need to play it again???
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 12:20PM Shadowise said
@Squalls Lionheart I think Robborboy is making some guesses there, even though his death is never confirmed.
Jorge activated a slipstream drive inside the Super Carrier, which sucked him, the Corvette and a large chunk of the Super Carrier into Slipspace. He wouldn't have been teleported out somewhere else as the Slipspace drive wasn't programmed to go anywhere, it would have just opened up a rupture and trapped him there.
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Jorge activated a slipstream drive inside the Super Carrier, which sucked him, the Corvette and a large chunk of the Super Carrier into Slipspace. He wouldn't have been teleported out somewhere else as the Slipspace drive wasn't programmed to go anywhere, it would have just opened up a rupture and trapped him there.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:30AM Unit076 said
Is that supposed to be funny?
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:54AM Misanthropic Gamer said
What a waste of bandwidth.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 7:58AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
Just no.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:06AM The Cole Train said
That was a waste of time
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:16AM Teancum said
Major disappointment. Normally HISE videos are great. Guess they should stick to movies.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:36AM Snappyguy said
Could have made them a little more crazy and suicidal but was still sort of funny.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:51AM HaVoK308 said
I really enjoyed Reach. But I'm just a Gamer.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:53AM joeysan24 said
I thought it was okay. Thanks for posting Joystiq.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 9:15AM Misfit Toy said
@joeysan24
Agreed. I'll give it an 'okay' as well.
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Agreed. I'll give it an 'okay' as well.
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 8:55AM Negatron said
The video was pretty unfunny.
Really Halo should have just ended with several Pelicans flying over the landscape in slow motion, with the sun rising in the back ground. Follow that up with Covenant ships that begin to fire on the BOOOooMMM KKKRRRkkkKSHHH!! SKREEEE!!! PEW PEW PEW!! KRAUUUSH!!! CRRRAACK!
- Micheal Bay
Really Halo should have just ended with several Pelicans flying over the landscape in slow motion, with the sun rising in the back ground. Follow that up with Covenant ships that begin to fire on the BOOOooMMM KKKRRRkkkKSHHH!! SKREEEE!!! PEW PEW PEW!! KRAUUUSH!!! CRRRAACK!
- Micheal Bay
Posted: Mar 31st 2011 11:08AM trickybuz93 said
@Negatron Quick! Someone send this idea to Micheal Bay so he can use it for his next transformers/we get a Halo movie :P
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Posted: Mar 31st 2011 9:24AM oJMan240o said
I thought the part with George playing with the Covenant ship was pretty funny.
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