Crytek denies it has new Xbox hardware

@rambo8 I agree. People keep mentioning that they hit a wall, yet new games keep pushing both consoles further graphically. Unless a major change happens in a year, I am fine waiting 2-3 years for a new console.

@rambo8

Well you're right about the PS3 but I think the 360 is nearing the end of the line. I mean the software update kept it fresh for a while but with games getting more & more high end, the 360 is having trouble keeping up. I would love to hear about a new console.

@Prboi I agree, games are really looking good overall but in the end the PS3 exclusives still outshine pretty much everything else. Granted the 3rd party stuff like Rage and BF3 will look awesome on both consoles.

@rambo8 Why? Why were you content waiting 5 years for the PS3 to replace the PS2 but 8-9 years for a PS4 to replace the PS3?

Its not like the current gen consoles are more future-proof than their predecessors!

@nerdydesi1 \

Actually, the current systems *are* more future-proof than their predecessors. Thanks to their online functionality, these PS3 and Xbox have been able to "upgrade" themselves over the years, expanding functionality, stability, usability, etc. I mean shit, Microsoft apparently found a way to unlock an extra GB of space on their DVDs. Sure, we can't upgrade the tech per se, but these systems have proven to be in the game for the long-haul and were built with that in mind, and now run more efficiently and are feature-rich. Also, we can pretty much say that developers now know these systems in/out, so I'm sure there are plenty of tools that have helped make their jobs more efficient, leading to a better final product.

@Prboi

The PS3 badly needs a new release just so they can build it with PSN in mind this time instead of tacking PSN onto architecture that wasn't built for it like they did with the PS3.

That's why there's no party chat on the PS3, the infastructure just isn't there. You can see it in their "cross game invites", which are really nothing more than message triggers for in-game invites. When you're in KZ3 and someone invites you to UC2 you're not actually getting a cross-game invite, you're getting an in-game UC2 invite and a separate message that basically says "hey go check out UC2 you have an invite there".

On the 360, all of the Live objects are built as exactly that...objects. And those objects are completely separate from the games and merely have hooks that the game can call. The PSN was not built like this, and as a result every new "feature" is really just a hack to get things to work right.

I think Sony was caught offguard by how big online networks and marketplaces would become this gen. Now that they know, and with a fresh start building the architecture to actually support that I'm confident that they can do a really good job that seriously forces Microsoft's hand into offering a cheaper service rather than just tickling it.

@embassy Microsoft never 'unlock' an extra gig on their disc. They reserved 1 gig for a video partition so that when you put the disc in your DVD player it'll tell to buy an xbox. I'm surprised that it took them this long to fix this mistake.

@Vcize

I'm sure if the Xbox360 wasn't relased the PS3 would have been a PS2 with better graphics and no online services.

@OuHiroshi

No mate, they unlocked an extra GB with newer CDs. The standard size is 8.Something GB, these newer ones are 9.something GB.

@Prboi

i disagree. as long as multiplatform games are more-or-less identical on both consoles, it's hard to agree with your statement. personally, i still think exclusives look great on the 360. just look at alan wake, gears of war 3, and halo reach. maybe they don't look as good as uncharted, but who really cares? the system came out a year before, and the fact that multiplatform games still look so similar is pretty amazing. i feel like there was a much larger divide last gen with the graphics of the ps2 and those of the original xbox.

the only thing at this point that i am concerned about is the disc space on dvds. as games get bigger, which is inevitably going to happen, there will be more titles that take up 2 or maybe even 3 dvds. however, i think the developers could put a little more thought into how they format the discs. for example, i see little reason why visceral/ea couldn't put the dead space 2 campaign on a single dvd while putting the multiplayer component (which i have still not played) on a separate disc. that just didn't make sense to me...

@XRZ36

"I hate calimari..."

Seriously that (while being old news) is the best news. I hope Crytek still retain the humour & irreverence of the series.

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@Lucky48
They can't win. The internet wants to believe.

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Sky net? don't you mean Crynet?

@Wheeelman

I forgot one thing...if you think Kinect dies with the 360 your a fool....of course it will appear in the next gen also so the argument of them riding out the 360 because of kinect is null!

@Wheeelman

I'm thinking Halo 4 will also be on the PC this time since MS is claiming that one of Win8's big features is gaming.

New console Winter 2012 seems right because I don't think they want be too far behind the WiiU's launch.

@nerdydesi1

I think part of the problem is that this generation of consoles launched at such a high price point and has stayed pretty high, especially with the inclusion of expensive accessories. People just aren't ready to drop another $399+games+controllers+online access yet.

@SisypheanLife Your right, there's a lot more things this gen to make our wallets lighter. Pay for Xbox Live, pay for a larger hard drive, pay for DLC in addition to the games and controllers and systems.

Previous generations didn't pay for online gaming, DLC and larger hard drives to store their content.

I still want new consoles to come out ASAP, especially with me being a PC gamer, so the industry can move forward. Its frustrating when you have a high-end rig and have outdated consoles the star of the show for developers. But I am in the minority. : (

@nerdydesi1

I love PC gaming, but I flip back and forth. I'm a PC gamer early in the console gen, until about three years into it, when hardware is stable, prices come down, and there's a huge backlog of games. Then, I play through those for a couple of years and go back to PC gaming for a couple years. It reduces my expenses for consoles, games, and PC parts that way.

@nerdydesi1 I think that there are a number of factors that play into this console cycle being far longer than longer. As stated above me, the extra costs that came along with this generation along with the high price point are causing, I believe, people to want a longer time period on their investment.
Added to these factors IMO is that graphical fidelity has come to the stage where any jump will be of a more incremental nature and as such it'll take a while for people to feel the need to move on. Plus, we're still in a global recession and the cost for developing games is huge as it is, I doubt many developers will desparately want to jump onto a new generation.
And I disagree that this generation is coming to an end. In the near future we'll have Skyrim, Uncharted 3, Mass Effect 3 and a slew of other big name games right into 2012 and beyond. I'm happy enough with what's coming to not need a new generation!

@BoBsS

Yeah, E3 2013 for 2014 release has always been my prediction for MS/Sony. They're in a solid profit stream right now and developers are really hitting a groove with their games. I would still kill for more RAM, though.

@TylerDurden102680 Then get the PS3 version. ; )

Lol well I have a PS3 but I only buy exclusives for it due to the fact that I am a pathetic achievement whore on my 360. All my friends play on the 360 and I am currently crushing them. I can't let myself fall behind!

@Neovampyre ??? So how come PC gaming is possible when virtually all of the machines have different speeds? It does not make sense.

@Neovampyre

You don't understand hardware.

@benheckendorn

"The Wii U specs are much higher than the 360, games like LA Noire are on 3 DVD's... Microsoft will have to respond somehow."

I would wait untill we actually see the specs confirmed before you jump on the bandwagon. If all the sources are correct and the GPU in the Wii U is RV770 and the silicon confirmed to be used for the CPU in the Wii U is 45 nm which of course is 2008 silicon. So for a new console coming out in 2012 it will be using a 4 year old GPU and 4 year old silicon base.

This takes me on to your second comment....
"Updates aside, you're still talking about 2004 silicon in there "

I love the fact that out of the 2 different nodes used in the 360 you got the year wrong but then your entire comment just drips with stupidity. For the record the 360 first shipped with a 90nm which was 2002 silicon and the current models use 65nm which is 2006 silicon.