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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:04AM Goity said

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I initially thought it was a different kind of pub fund. I just assumes Sony were a bunch of massive alcoholics...

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:04AM Goity said

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*assumed, even
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:52AM MrAlex said

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@Goity

I prefer it you sound like a snitch in a 30's detective drama.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 12:57PM maxxgold said

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They better do something because Xbox live has been kicking them in the balls since last generation.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 2:11PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@maxxgold

too bad you got downvoted because that is unequivocally true
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 5:41PM CleanUndies said

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@OnToGloryReturns

Too bad you're a troll because.... well, um... i guess you'd still be a troll.

You and Maxxgold should go have gay troll sex together. just one question

Under his bridge, or yours?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 6:38PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@CleanUndies

Sorry there butthurt boy - it's not trolling - it's a fact. I've spent plenty of time on my PS3 and like it but it's fanboy blindness to not see:

XBL is the defacto standard for online console gaming
The PSN would not be what it is without XBL
The security breach was an untimitigated disaster and the responsibility for that falls squarely in Sony's lap

And even today, as improved as it is, it doesn't come close to the effieciency and integration of XBL. I don't like having to plan my evening around firmware updates that take an hour or more and the consistently inconsistent performance of the PSN.
I give them credit where it's due but to say that XBL has not dominated the scene of online console gaming is ridiculous fanboyism - and as the security breach and loss of service for a month shows they have a long way to go.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 6:58PM Kinjiro said

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@OnToGloryReturns Fact or not, Xbox Live is unrelated to the article and hence is trolling.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 7:21PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@Kinjiro

Well I didn't make the post about XBL, I just responded to it.
I love my PS3 overall, love it. Go thru my post history and you'll see many references to Uncharted as one of my fave franchises this gen, and how glad I was to see ME come to the system, even in its' truncated form; but the whole PSN is as good as XBL is a completely ludacrous argument for anyone who has spent time on both. It is vastly improved from what it originally was but the security breach is the preemininent example of what an afterthought online gaming is for Sony.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 7:42PM CleanUndies said

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@OnToGloryReturns

its hard for an ugly troll to save face this late in the game. You say its fact, but its more like an opinion to me. Trolling is trolling and that's what you are doing.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:21PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@CleanUndies

Really? XBL isn't the defacto standard and Sony hasn't spent the last 4 years emulating it? Seems pretty factual to me.
And I guess the security breach due to Sony's lack of basic protection is just an opinion too.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:26PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@OnToGloryReturns

And Sony should have to pay MS royalties on the Trophy concept as well; but I guess that trophies copied achievements is just an opinion as well.

Shared by anyone w/a brain
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:43PM agneumeyer said

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@Goity Oh but I am, wait, who are we talking about?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:07AM Imdavid said

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I'd say invest more in security..then start thinking about other thing.

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:15AM mrantimatter said

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@Imdavid
i imagine after the PSN hack that was already done.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:26AM dakun said

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@Imdavid what kind of dumb comment is that?? really?? do you really believe that Sony is not capable of focusing on multiple things at the same time??
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 2:12PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@dakun

Judging by the way the PSN got face-raped this year - no.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:21AM DesmondMiles said

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yayyy more twin stick shooters and fart games!!

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:30AM Castiel said

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YESSS!! Thanks Sony for supporting independent developers instead of hiring circus people to advertise your product.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 7:47AM DesmondMiles said

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@Castiel
You do realise Microsoft has an indie game section right???

SONY is such a terrible company and should leave the gaming industry forever
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:07AM Castiel said

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@DesmondMiles
Dude are you like 12 or just a Xbox fanboy? Sony been in the gaming business for over 15 years releasing great series across all 3 platforms. Xbox on the other hand only came out with 2 system that overcharge you for everything. The indie section of XBL some good games but the majority are really bad. Microsoft doesnt even invest into buying indie dev. or even 1st party cause they only rely heavily on Halo and COD. In my opinion Microsoft should leave the gaming business and just make Windows cause thats the only thing they're good at. I grew up with Sony and have purchase over 500 games across all 3 PS platform and never once doubt about the consoles. So please go troll somewhere else without backing up reasons to justify your judgement. Troll.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:31AM PANdaRUS said

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After attempting to join friends in GT5 and in over all general cross game chats, etc., all of which was either impossible or unnecessarily painfully difficult to accomplish, one would hope that there is another $20 million being invested secretly into creating a new PSN service that isn't just an after thought response to XBOX LIVE. Sure the PS VITA looks interesting but I would much rather an online service that isn't so primitive. Yay I said it. >:(

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:42AM Tristan77 said

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@PANdaRUS PSN network is free. If you dont like it, then go and pay for xbox live which is a paid service. For being a free network service, PSN has done a great job so if you don't like it, is simple, don't use it.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 1:20PM LEONLEONLEON said

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@Tristan77

Apart from cross game chat, I cant think of anything else xbox live has over playstation network network.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 2:16PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@LEONLEONLEON

It has about an extra month's worth of service so far this year
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 3:09PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@Tristan77

Yup - 'PSN has done a great job'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 5:45PM CleanUndies said

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@OnToGloryReturns

did you really link a Wikipedia page as a reference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fail
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 6:30PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@CleanUndies

It's a quick reference - but if you'd like something more 'official' then there's plenty on the web about the PSN disaster that they could have prevented by having basic security in place
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 7:43PM CleanUndies said

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@OnToGloryReturns

Wow, did the water under your bridge flood your little troll home or what? why are you here? go drown or something.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:22PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@CleanUndies

lol - facts make u mad
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Posted: Jul 15th 2011 6:10PM LEONLEONLEON said

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@OnToGloryReturns

Its not that, Its just you are being pathetic and thinking youre great.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:33AM Tristan77 said

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A new PSN design is coming and now this investment for exclusive psn titles, things are looking pretty good. PS3 has already the best exclusive titles line up. I am glad. This will not look good for sony haters, their blood pressure will rise soon lol.

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 1:52PM TheHolyGhost said

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@Tristan77New PSN design? Where did you get that info from?
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 2:19PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@TheHolyGhost

The same source that told him 'PSN has done a great job'
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:37AM cantwait2bhome said

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More unique and innovative downloadable titles from indie/small developers is always a plus in my book. I recently got a PS3, so I'm not super familiar with its exclusives in that regards, but I have thoroughly enjoyed Ilomilo, Super Meat Boy, Limbo, and Lost Winds on my other consoles...

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:38AM Jon Jon said

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Good. I've been loving the games that have been hitting the PSN thus far. So much innovation and unique game play concepts. It's a breathe of fresh air.

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:51AM PANdaRUS said

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I'm referring to PS+ which is NOT free. If you don't like the truth perhaps moving to a country that covers the sky with their hand us more comforting to your delicate senses than a loyal PSN+ subscriber merely wanting more from a good thing that could be improved upon. If the PSN were left to people like you there wouldn't be an online service. We'd all be huddled around a tv playing split screen. Your bias is stagnating a good thing.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:56AM Colorfuljosh said

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Steam is free too and it annihilates both services put together
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:45AM Shadowbender said

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Sounds great to me! :)

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:50AM FriedConsole said

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I love the idea of playing more unique independent games but lets face it these are not system sellers. It is actually bad business strategy. If Sony really wanted to increase market share, they would spend that $20 million on a couple of high profile IPs that would sell systems.

I am glad they are investing in independent developers but it still doesn't make it a good business strategy. Nobody is buying a PS3 for Papo & Yo. People are buying a 360 for Gears of War. Microsoft doesn't care about these small games and is interested in just keeping Halo and Gear going which is the better business strategy and is why they will stay the market leader.

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:56AM doubtingthomas said

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@FriedConsole
What are you talking about? They are already investing in games like uncharted, infamous, sly cooper, little big planet, etc. so this $20 million is just icing on the psn cake. I love the idea of having a console that has exclusive "system sellers" as well as top notch indie downloadable games
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 11:04AM FriedConsole said

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@doubtingthomas

I agree that Uncharted and Infamous are system sellers (LBP maybe, Syl no) but I think one more exclusive big IP would sell more systems than all of the PSN indie games they are funding combined. I think Microsoft's COD time exclusive map packs probably sell more systems than the PSN games.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 12:35PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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@FriedConsole

I don't think you're thinking clearly about what you just said.

Firstly Media Molecule was an indie developer, had it not had the opportunity to show Sony what it was capable of, it would not be a Sony first party studio today, furthermore, they would not have made even half the money they've made or reached the state of success.

Secondly, are they system sellers? Yes, because if there are tons of awesome downloadable games on one console over another, people will buy to obtain those games.

Thirdly, where does the originality come from if not from the indie developers? Indies are the most innovative and not everyone wants to play a continuous stream of FPS, Third Person Games and Racers, sometimes games like Pixel Junk, Flower, Castle Crashers and Little Big Planet are the sorts of games people want to play.

Fourthly, these same 'irrelevant' games as you make it seem could be used for PSVita, for PSPhone, for Android PS store and for other devices Sony wishes to expand to, as far as I'm concerned, that right there is business strategy because Sony gets a percentage on each and every download sold, in effect, $20mill into a pot could bring back returns far higher then that if the game(s) are/is downloaded on several devices.

So all in all, I don't see how the pub fund is a bad thing, if anything, its better for Sony (getting more exclusives and PSN games that won't be seen on XBL or WiiU Ware), and better for us (because we get better and more games to play, not only that, we actually NOTICE them, as in other circumstances they would largely get ignored)
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 1:46PM sin2sin said

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@FriedConsole

God of War, Killzone, and Resistance say "hello." God of War probably shouts it and then rips someone in half.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 2:36PM Slayer15 said

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@FriedConsole I'm pretty sure Sly, or "Syl" as you put it, is a system seller. It is a pretty popular game.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 5:21PM kgoo867 said

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PixelJunk

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 6:44PM fid said

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guys, it doesn't appear sony is giving money to the developers so 'helping the indie guys' isn't really how it sounds.

it's more like:
sony controls the street corner on which a kid is selling lemonade. for each glass of lemonade sold, sony gets a cut. sony tastes and likes said lemonade, and pays for a advertising sign so they make their street corner more profitable.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 12:29AM BigEgo007 said

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The trolls are really out on this one. How do they find time to troll when they're so busy bowing down to their xbl overlords?

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