Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase recently gave what appears to be the final word on the possibility of a FFVII remake during an interview with TechDigest. "If we were to recreate Final Fantasy VII with the same level of graphical detail as you see in Final Fantasy XIII, we'd imagine that that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together," Kitase explained, "so it's looking pretty unrealistic!"
Ultimately, the chances of a remade FFVII getting developed are slim, but not non-existent. "If it were possible that we had all the right facilities and the right environment to be able to make and prepare a Final Fantasy VII remake within a year, we'd very much like a go at it," Kitase said. So, there you have it. If you want to see Cloud Strife in HD, all you have to do is recruit and bankroll a gargantuan Square Enix development team. Piece of cake!
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:35AM pika2000 said
I don't really see the point why people wants Squenix to remake FF7. I rather see new materials, or even a sequel, than remakes. Heck, where's Chrono Break? I rather see Squenix continues with Chrono Break than remaking FF7. If Squenix actually did remake FF7, it will bomb as people and fanboys would have too high of expectation, and would nitpick the remake to bits.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:54AM death1217 said
dammit square you and your ridiculous teasing just tell us a definite answer is it a no or a yes since when did you turn in to a woman! DAMN YOU SQUARE!
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 9:43AM DudemanJones said
He's spouting complete nonsense. Just from doing that intro movie a few years ago they already have a large amount of assets to work with, the most time consuming being the character models. They already have a perfect working template for the game design, engine, and all the levels, and all of the dialogue is already done, so his whole argument is pretty much near complete BS.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 9:51AM Walo said
It's just me or Square is talking too much about how impossible it is to do a remake? I've never seen Square talking too much about it before, and they were fast to change the subject. Now they're practically "begging" to be heard about it. And the worse is that there isn't a definitively response either.
Considering that all subsequent FFVII related work has better graphics than the original game itself. It's a shame not to do a remake. But hey, all I want is a "yes or no" answer. If I wanted a non-conclusive answer I would ask a politician.
Considering that all subsequent FFVII related work has better graphics than the original game itself. It's a shame not to do a remake. But hey, all I want is a "yes or no" answer. If I wanted a non-conclusive answer I would ask a politician.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 11:47AM Lemondish said
As many have mentioned, we'd need to define what type of remake we're expecting. When it comes to a traditional HD remake, the gameplay mechanics stay the same, the story and expected story progression remains the same, and the only differences are the visuals. This is the type of project I've been involved with in the past, and while you have less freedom than say on a project designed to be a homage or complete re-imagining, you require far less direction and preproduction time. It isn't necessarily that cheap to update all the assets within the game to HD, especially considering how simple they were in their day, but it wouldn't take very long, months at most given how large the Square Enix team must be. The longest portion of the update would have to do with environments though it'd be interesting to know if they still have the assets they created for the prerendered backgrounds. In which case, they don't have to refer to only what they can see in the game and can build into the new engine off of the already prebuilt environments.
Also, on that thought, the model art they used to create the FF7 movie could easily provide everything they'd need from a character standpoint. Animations would be the only necessary addition. A sound update would be fantastic, though I would personally try to tackle it with real voice actors this time around.
And to be absolutely honest, this is the type of remake I would prefer. However, many may not as they'd be more interested in a complete reimagining of the game. In that case, you're looking at around the same development time as any other RPG, and not 12 years. In either case, while the above looks somewhat daunting (while being a very vague generalistic idea of what they'd have to work with), it isn't anywhere close to the development time needed for a current big budget title, nor is it anywhere near the development time quoted in the original article.
Also, on that thought, the model art they used to create the FF7 movie could easily provide everything they'd need from a character standpoint. Animations would be the only necessary addition. A sound update would be fantastic, though I would personally try to tackle it with real voice actors this time around.
And to be absolutely honest, this is the type of remake I would prefer. However, many may not as they'd be more interested in a complete reimagining of the game. In that case, you're looking at around the same development time as any other RPG, and not 12 years. In either case, while the above looks somewhat daunting (while being a very vague generalistic idea of what they'd have to work with), it isn't anywhere close to the development time needed for a current big budget title, nor is it anywhere near the development time quoted in the original article.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:24PM (Unverified) said
I also wish they would say yes or no.
I also wish they would stop bitching about how much work it would be. Most other devs have no problem doing it, and some of their games have more (and more complex) 3D environments than FF VII.
Look at Fallout 3 or GTA 4, if you were to recreate FF VII being faithful to the original (Hell, i think most people would accept the same isometric perspective but with beautiful 3D) it would be less work than either of those.
I r none understand either.
I also wish they would stop bitching about how much work it would be. Most other devs have no problem doing it, and some of their games have more (and more complex) 3D environments than FF VII.
Look at Fallout 3 or GTA 4, if you were to recreate FF VII being faithful to the original (Hell, i think most people would accept the same isometric perspective but with beautiful 3D) it would be less work than either of those.
I r none understand either.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:28PM DarkSan00 said
Well, if they had already started the game since they made the tech demo, it would be done by now...
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:29PM (Unverified) said
Is this the new Squaresoft way of doing things? Bitch about how you can't do anything?
C'mon guys, towns are soooo hard to make in HD.
C'mon guys, towns are soooo hard to make in HD.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 5:48PM (Unverified) said
Squaresoft died in 2003 dude. Where have you been the past 7 years?
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:54PM (Unverified) said
There are so many different teams that work within Square Enix that this could easily be done as a side project. Personally, *I* think they're waiting until the next generation of consoles. These quotes seem to hint at it too. Like "if we can develop it in a year." That is just unrealistic. They can't do a simple remake. There are plenty of bits that they would redo: new materia, sidequests, chocobo farming. Who's to say that they haven't already thrown around all these ideas and aren't just waiting for the technology to catch up?
Basically they want the remake to look as close to Advent Children as possible or else, when technology catches up to that level of animation in real time gameplay, people won't be bitching that they should have waited to do the remake. Honestly I'd rather wait for Playstation4 when the capabilities of what a system can do are beyond that of FFXIII.
Long winded but one more point: They have another MMO coming out. If they set a team to work on that (patches, expansions, etc) and keep people occupied with that for at least a couple years, then why not start up on this remake with another team?
Basically they want the remake to look as close to Advent Children as possible or else, when technology catches up to that level of animation in real time gameplay, people won't be bitching that they should have waited to do the remake. Honestly I'd rather wait for Playstation4 when the capabilities of what a system can do are beyond that of FFXIII.
Long winded but one more point: They have another MMO coming out. If they set a team to work on that (patches, expansions, etc) and keep people occupied with that for at least a couple years, then why not start up on this remake with another team?
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 1:07PM TLSonata said
A Final Fantasy VII remake would break records. I know too many people who would buy multiple copies just to hold as collector's items. I'm proud to still be the owner of a shrink wrapped FF7. I feel like square may have to lay a giant bomb in order for them to go back and remake this, but seriously guys, it's a guaranteed 200 mill right out the gate. And that's a modest assumption.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 1:17PM nandokun said
I'd buy a FF7 remake.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 1:57PM (Unverified) said
Haaah XD I think the reason people don't understand is that they don't WANT to understand. That all hopes of a remake have been crushed and grind to dust.
While I really do not like FFVII, I do know that it is a very big game. Remaking and upping every single detail, nook and cranny to the nth degree in time consuming in itself. You would also have to recreate every single semi-important or pivotal moment, rewrite nearly the entire story since plotholes have been filled by previous installments in the Compilation, make highly-detailed models of every single character. And of course, the dubious task of recreating Red XIII as animated fur is the bane of their life. All from a game that spanned four separate disks that all had large content on their own. So yeah, remake isn't gonna happen. The fans can try if they will to remake the game themselves, but they'll soon enough see why Square won't do it themselves. We all know that making a Final Fantasy game takes years to develop and then finally release it, but to completely remake a large game like FFVII could possibly take, dare I say, near over half a decade?
While I really do not like FFVII, I do know that it is a very big game. Remaking and upping every single detail, nook and cranny to the nth degree in time consuming in itself. You would also have to recreate every single semi-important or pivotal moment, rewrite nearly the entire story since plotholes have been filled by previous installments in the Compilation, make highly-detailed models of every single character. And of course, the dubious task of recreating Red XIII as animated fur is the bane of their life. All from a game that spanned four separate disks that all had large content on their own. So yeah, remake isn't gonna happen. The fans can try if they will to remake the game themselves, but they'll soon enough see why Square won't do it themselves. We all know that making a Final Fantasy game takes years to develop and then finally release it, but to completely remake a large game like FFVII could possibly take, dare I say, near over half a decade?
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:30PM (Unverified) said
That sounds like a load of shit to me. Why would it take you three to four times longer to make a game with a much more simplistic battle system? Is it because the dungeons aren't straight lines? Oh no, heaven forbid they code something nonlinear!
I mean, FFVII is fairly overrated anyway. But if you're going to bother making an excuse for why you aren't going to remake the game, at least make it something that isn't laughably false.
I mean, FFVII is fairly overrated anyway. But if you're going to bother making an excuse for why you aren't going to remake the game, at least make it something that isn't laughably false.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:25PM (Unverified) said
Here's why:
Entirely new, highly detailed rendered realistic 3D models for every single character, NPC and PC alike as opposed to the blocky, chibified ones. The dubious task of animating Red XIII's fur as well as his brethren and the Chocobos are all an obstacle all on their own. New animations as well.
Environments themselves have to be fully rendered in 3D as opposed to still, bitmap images.
Re-written script to fix goof ups and inconsistencies.
Possibly revamped battle system and setup
Final Fantasy VII is a huge game, and remaking it is not only time-consuming, but also devours resources and money. Even if they managed to pull it off and it did make record sales, they'd be back at square one because it'd still be a while before they pulled themselves out of the financial pit they'd get thrown in spending all those bucks and tools just make it. Remaking the past games was a simple task as all they needed to do was either fix the script and/or update the sprites and because they were significantly shorter than VII to IX as those games spanned four disks, all containing shitloads of things already jammed in there. We all know how long it takes for an FF game to be made and how much money would be invested, but remaking this is really asking too much. Simply put, if Sqaure says they can't do it, then they can't do it.
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Entirely new, highly detailed rendered realistic 3D models for every single character, NPC and PC alike as opposed to the blocky, chibified ones. The dubious task of animating Red XIII's fur as well as his brethren and the Chocobos are all an obstacle all on their own. New animations as well.
Environments themselves have to be fully rendered in 3D as opposed to still, bitmap images.
Re-written script to fix goof ups and inconsistencies.
Possibly revamped battle system and setup
Final Fantasy VII is a huge game, and remaking it is not only time-consuming, but also devours resources and money. Even if they managed to pull it off and it did make record sales, they'd be back at square one because it'd still be a while before they pulled themselves out of the financial pit they'd get thrown in spending all those bucks and tools just make it. Remaking the past games was a simple task as all they needed to do was either fix the script and/or update the sprites and because they were significantly shorter than VII to IX as those games spanned four disks, all containing shitloads of things already jammed in there. We all know how long it takes for an FF game to be made and how much money would be invested, but remaking this is really asking too much. Simply put, if Sqaure says they can't do it, then they can't do it.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 10:43PM edisinsane said
Ah, but the thing that everyone seems to overlook is that between Advent Children and the cutscene movies from Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus, much of it is ALREADY DONE. You'd be a fool to think they threw away all those assets after the products were finished.
If Squenix were really not into the idea of doing this remake, they would just stay quiet about it. This is probably just some corporate maneuvering on their part. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Sony published FFVII as opposed to all their other games.
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If Squenix were really not into the idea of doing this remake, they would just stay quiet about it. This is probably just some corporate maneuvering on their part. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Sony published FFVII as opposed to all their other games.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:51PM Misanthropic Gamer said
What a relief. The last thing we need is another damn remake.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:12PM clay said
FFXIII 1/3 as good as FFVII confirmed!
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:37PM Nova said
Kitase is right. I guess they still have all the game on back up so they can modify it but we're in a new generation of video game so it would need A LOT of modification and A LOT of modelling work. They should make a spin-off instead or something closer to the 7. Whatever they do, gamers will buy the game.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:58PM Angel Mass said
FF 8 remake please
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 5:12PM kmcroc said
i Think square is full of it,i hope you guys get your ff7 remake .but what makes me laugh is that everyone assumes the the next Xbox will have the #s 720 in its name , why is that . no offence that would be OK if the next one was going to be twice as powerful as the 360,but what if the next console is a whole new animal. what name would be appropriate for it then.(just posing a Q)
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 6:01PM (Unverified) said
They should have never shown the tech demo of FF7...
I mean, this is how all the talk about a remake surfaced.
1. Guy sees tech demo
2. OMGWTFBBQ SE IS DOING A FF7 REMAKE!!!
3. everyone jumps on the hype train
4. SE: hmm this remake thing is getting quite a bit of attention. We'll just bring it up from time to time to get publicity, and have people talk about us
I honestly do not think that a remake is coming.
I mean, has there ever been a Final Fantasy that has been completely remade? Maybe minor tweaks, but never a graphic overhaul.
I sure don't see Final Fantasy 1 to 6 getting remade with 3D graphics, why should SE go out of their way to remake 7?
Besides, even if they do remake it, some fans will never be satisfied about how it is done.
Why mess with something that's already had a great run for what it's worth?
It's like Jordan making a come back.
I mean, this is how all the talk about a remake surfaced.
1. Guy sees tech demo
2. OMGWTFBBQ SE IS DOING A FF7 REMAKE!!!
3. everyone jumps on the hype train
4. SE: hmm this remake thing is getting quite a bit of attention. We'll just bring it up from time to time to get publicity, and have people talk about us
I honestly do not think that a remake is coming.
I mean, has there ever been a Final Fantasy that has been completely remade? Maybe minor tweaks, but never a graphic overhaul.
I sure don't see Final Fantasy 1 to 6 getting remade with 3D graphics, why should SE go out of their way to remake 7?
Besides, even if they do remake it, some fans will never be satisfied about how it is done.
Why mess with something that's already had a great run for what it's worth?
It's like Jordan making a come back.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 10:48PM edisinsane said
Final Fantasy III on the DS. Granted, it isn't an HD remake, but it certainly is an upgrade from the original 8-bit version.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 7:59PM (Unverified) said
ATTENTION SQUARE ENIX!
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY.
JUST MAKE THIS GAME AND I WILL PAY YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
Thanks,
Mike
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY.
JUST MAKE THIS GAME AND I WILL PAY YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
Thanks,
Mike
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 8:41PM spacemonkey086 said
what would be unrealistic is them making a game that actually matters as much as FF7 did when it came out.
Posted: Feb 21st 2010 9:04PM Hunter Rose said
Screw Final Fantasy VII. That last, best Final Fantasy was VI. And if anything deserves a remake, it's that.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 2:50AM (Unverified) said
They have probably already been working on it for 2-3 years now secretly and in about another year or two will announce it. Was not Final Fantasy XIV that everyone was like WTF!!! at E3 about because there were already like 3 final fantasy's in development, blowing everyone away by surprise? Didn't they say this has secretly been in development along XIII for a long time now? I'm sure they have their own Dirge of Cerberus Deep Ground Soldier Development Team drinking mako energy drinks to stay awake all day that have been working on it for a couple years already. That or Square-Enix seriously does not like making money. They could probably light cigars with Benjamen's with a profit from a VII remake.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:52AM paper said
They just sad because they realize a FF7 remake would sell better then 11, 12, and 13 combined. Boo Hoo.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:59AM Azarielzx said
They must be waiting for soemone to release a working hack for the PS3, so they get screwed worldwide... and THEN they release FFVII remake on a special PS3 golden chase...
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:26PM aaronaaron said
ATTENTION SQUARE ENIX!
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY.
THE LAST FF GAME I BOUGHT WAS FFX.
JUST MAKE THIS GAME AND I WILL PAY YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
Thanks,
Aaron
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY.
THE LAST FF GAME I BOUGHT WAS FFX.
JUST MAKE THIS GAME AND I WILL PAY YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
Thanks,
Aaron
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 12:52AM (Unverified) said
well, if they are really considering it, why not open a donation toward FF VII remake? they could have a paypal account that fans could donate to to help for funding for the project!
Posted: Mar 1st 2010 1:55PM gatotsu911 said
I find it both sad and excruciatingly ironic that now that greater processing power than ever before is at developers' fingertips, one of the largest devs in the world is saying they couldn't make a game of the same scale as one released nearly 13 years ago because it would take too many resources to make all the graphics shiny enough. Really shows you where the industry's mindset is at.
Posted: Mar 1st 2010 6:04PM Parhelion69 said
"that would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together"
So, FF VII is 3,4 times more complex-larger-(better) than FF XIII?
What troubles me is that FF VII has script, characters, locations, gameplay design, etc. done already. Cutscenes would have to be redone with gameplay graphics and tons of dialog recorded of course, but that operational, there's no thinking and much planning involved. IS FF XIII THAT SIMPLE??
Kitase just admited that FF VII is far better-larger-more complex-more involving game..... not good for business.
Something tells me FF XIII is gonna be trashed in western reviews.....
So, FF VII is 3,4 times more complex-larger-(better) than FF XIII?
What troubles me is that FF VII has script, characters, locations, gameplay design, etc. done already. Cutscenes would have to be redone with gameplay graphics and tons of dialog recorded of course, but that operational, there's no thinking and much planning involved. IS FF XIII THAT SIMPLE??
Kitase just admited that FF VII is far better-larger-more complex-more involving game..... not good for business.
Something tells me FF XIII is gonna be trashed in western reviews.....
Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 12:35AM (Unverified) said
Square you have to think. The Millions who fell in love with FF7 might care about FFs 8-13 but guess what. They would rather you put out a Re-Make of 7 at a higher price maybe say $75-100 then pay $60 dollars for 8-13 which they may NOT even like. If you remake it think of the money you would make off it. For one the people who have the original will know and say hey i liked it for PSone Im going to get it for PS3. People dont want to take chances on a game like 13. I've seen people even say they would buy a PS3 if a remake was done which means Sony would be making more money. So you know what that means right? You guys need to really think about this. Because soon you are going to have people putting out a petition around the U.S, no Around the world. 10 Million + copies were sold of the original thats not including the people who probably rented it from a game store and liked it. So instead of making stupid games like FF 8 - 13 why dont you take the time out and give the people WHAT THEY WANT........... THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT, REMEMBER THAT SQUARE ENIX
Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 12:44AM (Unverified) said
I agree with Parhelion. Square does not need a plot, character line up or anything else. They have everything right in front of them. Do not tweek the story line do not do anything make it the same game. Graphics are the only thing you should Improve. Maybe put character voices. You guys make millions of dollars a day I do not wanna hear a sad excuss saying that it is un-realistic. It is not impossible. Re-make FF7 because until you do I know I am not spending another DIME on a SQUARE ENIX MADE VIDEO GAME FOR ANY CONSOLE. And guess what along with me I know there will be Millions who agree. And for every Million that does not buy a copy of your game that is $60 Million dollars out of you and other retailers pockets. So without the remake you would lose approximately $500 Million dollars if 9 million people purchased the remake............... Think square enix your going to go downhill if you do not listen to these people
Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:02PM (Unverified) said
Personally X was the last game I bought. They started getting to out there and the main character started either looking like a girl or actually being one, Im sorry if it makes me a pig or something but I just dont care for that. Also they got too complex for me which probably also make me old or something, i'm 24 lol. That game is what got me to play RPG style games, I'm getting back to playing just sports/shooter games cause it seems like the original concepts of RPG's are being ruined with overcomplications. No way they wouldnt make money off this, if they did it and didnt totally ruin it i'd pay them triple for it if that makes them feel better. I think this guys just has some personal vendetta against it, maybe couldnt beat Ruby and Emerald weapon, I dunno.
Posted: Mar 9th 2010 8:59PM (Unverified) said
Sight this is BS!! Maybe they waiting to see how much money FFXIII can make, then they will have enough budget to make that remake
Posted: Apr 24th 2010 3:12PM (Unverified) said
I think they WILL remake it someday. but it won't be in the near future. If they still have the money, and if they are still growing, in 4-6 years or so they will consider making it. If technology has grown by then, they will will probably have it produced in 2 years or so. Major guess/estimate but I would say 7-8 year until it comes out would be fair to say the least. That is, if the consider making it.
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