Gran Turismo 5 launches in the US on November 24. No, we're serious -- no joking!
Gran Turismo 5 launches in the US on November 24. No, we're serious -- no joking!
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:32PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said
Why so spy hating.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:38PM Faenix said
..ouch :/
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:39PM Styli said
How does it take 40 mins to install 6.3GB? That seems rather lengthy considering the 360 installs a 4.7GB disc in less than 10 mins. Before anyone asks, I own a PS3 and a 360 (and a Wii) so I'm not gonna show bias. I am actually curious why it would take so long?
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:43PM shatteredminds said
@Styli I may be wrong, but doesn't each PS3 encrypt the code into it's own unique language? I think that's why installs generally take longer on PS3s.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:50PM Indefinite Implosion said
My guess is that it actually installs the files in a specific way so they're accessed faster, but the data is just plain copied over on the 360, i.e., it's just copied as an iso of the disc onto the hard drive and runs it as it would if it were on the disc.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:59PM Padilla7921 said
@Styli
Might have something to do with the BD read speeds. Also, 6.3GB doesn't seem like a whole lot for a game that's been in development since the 1980s (unless, of course, not everything is installed). Kudos for compression.
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Might have something to do with the BD read speeds. Also, 6.3GB doesn't seem like a whole lot for a game that's been in development since the 1980s (unless, of course, not everything is installed). Kudos for compression.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:21PM Styli said
@Styli
Some good replies. Yep, maybe it does a full install creating a file structure on the HDD as opposed to the 360 which installs a disc image. Which would make sense. Forza 3 required an install of Disc 2 on the 360 and IIRC it was just a disc image so was only a few minutes to do. So it would lead me to think that it's just the way the systems work and doing a disc image install on PS3 may not be possible. I'd still happily do a 40 min install though for GT5.
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Some good replies. Yep, maybe it does a full install creating a file structure on the HDD as opposed to the 360 which installs a disc image. Which would make sense. Forza 3 required an install of Disc 2 on the 360 and IIRC it was just a disc image so was only a few minutes to do. So it would lead me to think that it's just the way the systems work and doing a disc image install on PS3 may not be possible. I'd still happily do a 40 min install though for GT5.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:24PM Indefinite Implosion said
Well the 360's drive isn't that much faster than the PS3's, in terms of bit rate...
The average read rate for the 360 on a DVD is: SL 10.25MB/s; DL 7.93MB/s
The constant read rate for the PS3 on a Blu-ray is 9MB/s
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26296680
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The average read rate for the 360 on a DVD is: SL 10.25MB/s; DL 7.93MB/s
The constant read rate for the PS3 on a Blu-ray is 9MB/s
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26296680
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:08PM A Sandwich said
@wcarnation
57GB of which is uncompressed audio.
I keed, I keed!
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57GB of which is uncompressed audio.
I keed, I keed!
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 11:45PM golfs4panzys said
@Styli
As indefinite already pointed out, the realistic speed between the ps3s bluray drive and the 360s dvd drive is pretty similar. It probably takes longer on the ps3 because of encryption or decryption.
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As indefinite already pointed out, the realistic speed between the ps3s bluray drive and the 360s dvd drive is pretty similar. It probably takes longer on the ps3 because of encryption or decryption.
Posted: Nov 20th 2010 10:42AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@Styli
I was also under the impression Xbox was similar to PC in it's make up :/ There's nothing to translate.
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I was also under the impression Xbox was similar to PC in it's make up :/ There's nothing to translate.
Posted: Nov 21st 2010 3:36AM AssassinKensei said
@Styli I'm not sure because my PS3 also takes a lot longer to do Title updates than my 360 does sometimes it is annoying. Also downloadable games take longer to download on playstation as well, there has to be some kind of drive write speed thing in the OS.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:40PM jocaju said
I wonder why it takes 40 minutes to install 6.3GB. Most 5GB game install takes between 5 to 10 minutes.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:41PM MLC said
GT5 is actually releasing. Holy crap!
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:44PM PR0F3TA said
FALLOUT 3 had this "option" too right?? i add the quote marks because it wasn't really an option, it installed it the first time you loaded a new game.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:50PM malnsk said
gigglebyte hahaaa
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 7:51PM Milf Biggenson said
I've never liked Gran Turismo and I probably won't like this one. But it sure looks cool. I'm more of a "Need For Speed" or "Ridge Racer" player, and yes, I know that makes me instantly lame. I just wish I had the skillz to play GT, it actually saddens me.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:10PM InfinitiProject said
@Milf Biggenson same here (HUGE Ridge Racer fanatic). i'll be getting GT5 for sure and might do a few online races when I know i'll get crushed against the "pros"
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:15PM mmmfishtacos said
@Milf Biggenson You know you could just play the game, over and over again. I hear it's great for learning something new. Just act like it's a real car, and you'll instantly become better. Build skill from there.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2010 10:59PM Jack Kevorkian said
@Milf Biggenson Just get it for the single player. You'll pick it up soon enough I was the same as you until I picked up Forza. Realistic racers are the smiz once you get used to them.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2010 4:42PM bunt said
@Milf Biggenson
I felt the exact same about how brutally I played previous sim racers (i.e. GT5) but last week I picked up a Driving Force GT wheel and holy $#!^ did racing games ever get better in my books. I don't know how I ever played racing games before using a controller. I highly recommend picking one up if you want to really experience GT5.
I got mine for $69.00 and later picked up Prologue and Dirt 2. So far everyone that has tried it has been blown away (even my 60 year old dad). In my opinion, if you can drive a car--you will undoubtedly be able to drive decently in a sim using a racing wheel. Can't wait to try it on GT5.
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I felt the exact same about how brutally I played previous sim racers (i.e. GT5) but last week I picked up a Driving Force GT wheel and holy $#!^ did racing games ever get better in my books. I don't know how I ever played racing games before using a controller. I highly recommend picking one up if you want to really experience GT5.
I got mine for $69.00 and later picked up Prologue and Dirt 2. So far everyone that has tried it has been blown away (even my 60 year old dad). In my opinion, if you can drive a car--you will undoubtedly be able to drive decently in a sim using a racing wheel. Can't wait to try it on GT5.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:01PM Joanna D said
No, it doesn't offer the option to install "while you play" it offers the option to install parts of the data on-demand.
No matter what option you choose you're going to be waiting around for 50 minutes.
No matter what option you choose you're going to be waiting around for 50 minutes.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:02PM Faenix said
The install, at present, made the game a no go.
I dont got $70 for the game AND $45 for a new HDD. My PS3 HDD has like 300 MB - xD
I dont got $70 for the game AND $45 for a new HDD. My PS3 HDD has like 300 MB - xD
Posted: Nov 20th 2010 2:30AM golfs4panzys said
@Faenix
An earlier post on joystiq about a month or so ago detailed the install requirements.
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An earlier post on joystiq about a month or so ago detailed the install requirements.
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:05PM Esposch said
Sounds like a really good idea, actually.
Why don't more games do this?
Why don't more games do this?
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:20PM asdfdsa said
gigglebytes
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:34PM Omnistatic said
Woot, one of my biggest pet peeves when getting a new game is, you get it unwrapped, put er in, and then got to sit through installs, updates... GRRRR!
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:45PM NoirR said
If people waited ages for GT5 to release they can wait for another 40 mins
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 9:09PM A Sandwich said
@NoirR
Conversely, if people have waited ages for GT5, why should they have to wait another 40 minutes?
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Conversely, if people have waited ages for GT5, why should they have to wait another 40 minutes?
Posted: Nov 19th 2010 8:52PM Hong Dong said
Woah steady on here. Installs?? Erm, shouldn't we just wait until the physical media is in our grubby mitts before discussing any of this? We still have another (counts them) 4 days to go before it drops and there could be another delay or something as Polyphony decide to add the voices of the Top Gear lads or put in some spaceships to race against. You know it could happen.
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