New Bravia TV includes PS2 hardware

by JC Fletcher on Dec 3rd 2010 10:07AM

Many of us can't play PS2 games on our PS3s right now, but Sony has come up with a clever, and distinctly Sony-like, workaround for that problem: sticking a PS2 into a Bravia HDTV. And only ten years after the system's contemporary, the Dreamcast, was packed into a Fuji TV.

The budget-focused (okay, maybe it's not all that Sony-like) Bravia KDL-22PX300 includes 720p output, four HDMI ports ... and a PS2. We bet you can't guess where the PS2 hardware is in that sleek, sleek design. The set's currently available in the UK for £199.95 (about $312).

Via: Engadget
Source: RegHardware

Tags: bravia, hdtv, kdl-22px300, ps2, sony, uk

Reader Comments (55)

Hmm.

That's pretty cool.

@Ezio Auditore da Firenze
No, my pasta eating friend. That's REALLY freaking cool.
Do these come in a 50 inch? (thats not what she said, so don't)

@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

It's a God send. My 3-yr-old is interested in games now. If I start her off on this TV combo, I can give her the satisfaction of going to GameStop and buying her 2-3 games at a time because they're so cheap!

@Spookimitsu That's what she said

@InkSix at gamestop you will only have to buy2 cuz yoou get one free since they have that deal

Damn thats cool and better than one of my current tvs. I think I want it.

That's kinda cool. I wonder if the PS2 part is detachable somehow because if the laser burned out (or some other problem that broke the PS2) it would be really annoying to have to replace the entire TV just for another base.

@Ospov

This is why combo devices (more commonly, DVD/TV combos) are a bad idea - if one part breaks, it likely can't be replaced. And you can't upgrade just one of the items.

@JasonA

I know what you mean. My girlfriend recently had her TV/DVD player die on her. Luckily she had the extended warranty so she got a new, better TV out of it.

@Ospov - VCR/TV Combos were the biggest pieces of garbage in the history of consumer electronics. If this new TV has half the reliability of those old things, it should be alright.

@BananaBoat

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've had a VCR/DVD/TV combo for probably close to 4 or 5 years, maybe more, and I haven't had any problems with it. I know they aren't the most reliable things ever though. I'm still hoping this PS2 TV holds up for the people that buy it though.

@Ospov -My sister had one before LCD's came around, and it crapped out. It was fixed under warranty, and then almost immediately crapped out again. You've gotten a good model if it has lasted that many years.

If only it was a 40 inch :P

Very cool idea, a little after it's time though.

"Many of us can't play PS2 games on our PS3s right now,". It's nice to see that not everyone has given up hope, but it seems that if we don't have backwards compatibility by now, we are never going to have it. At this point, I think I'd buy a PS2 if it had an HDMI port in it. Why must you do this to us, Sony?

@Sylath I almost want to use my 60GB launch PS3 as an HD PS2 and use a new Slim as a PS3. Is that weird?

@Sylath

People bitched and moaned for a cheaper PS3.

I love my PS3 with partial BC. I got my money worths despite it costing me $620+

@chrisgrant
Yeah, that's kind of weird. I waited a bit too long and got a fat ps3 that doesn't support ps2 games. I think everyone in my group got a little extra shafted.

@Faenix

Price gets brought up every time. EU, and later NA PS3s, had SOFTWARE BC. They took it out because they wanted higher PS3 game sales, not because it cost anything. (Hardware BC costs, Software would not.)

@wormania : they didn't have just software emulation though. There was still an extra chip on it. Cutting it saved Sony about 10 dollars a console in manufacturing cost if I remeber correctly.

@wormania

Yeah, the PS3 games sales is part of it. But it the games weren't completely emulated; there was still some ps2 hardware in there. One thing i noticed with my partial BC system was that the fan went to full power when ever a PS2 game was loaded. It was louder than a lot of PS3 games i had. I think that it just used a lot of power. The upscaling is a nice feature though. Many games do look somewhat better.

@GenGrievous

He's right.
It still contained one of the PS2 processors, it just emulated the other one.

And chrisgrant, I hate to break it to you, but PS2 B/C on a 60gb isn't HD.

@Sylath

PS2 BC has barely affected me at all. I got the MGS4 80GB which I think was the last model with BC of any kind. I barely play any of my old PS2 games. Sometimes Battlefront 2 or some Destroy All Humans, but that's it.

sucks cause if your PS2 ever messes up then you have to send in the whole tv or vice versea

@EDZiLLUH And we all know how well the PS2 was built, don't we? On the plus side, we've never seen a TV Disc Read Error before, so that would be cool....

Wow, that is cool. I would hope that this kind of trend keeps up in the future. Imagine 10-15 years from now having a 360, PS3, or Wii programmed directly into your TV. I certainly wouldn't mind having that since I'll have an archive with old games that I might want to randomly play one day.

I wouldn't kind having an emulation service on the TV either. WiiWare, PSN, and XBLA TVs? Why not? Put a usb plug and ethernet on the TV and you're set.

It's nifty, but a 22" class sceen is awfully small. Surprised it's not at least a 27", though I suppose this is perfect for a kid's bedroom, office or dorm setup.

@Architecture Wow you actually said 22 class tv, you must be a frequent best buy customer

@JimmyBoy

Technically, class is an accurate word. A simplified explanation:

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7536437_lcd-vs-class-lcd.html

That's awesome. If my PS2 and TV both happen to die someday, I might check this out :D

PS2 era graphics are best viewed on a good CRT TV. Looking at them through an LCD display generally makes them look much more low res and lowpoly than they should. So then, welding a PS2 to an LCD TV? Ehhh.

@bm111 THIS

@bm111
Exactly. I wanted the PS3 to retain backward compatibility until I saw how terribly it did it. If Sony could make a unit that rivaled PS2 PC emulation, where a game is cleaned up dramatically, upscaled properly, and all that jazz, it would be a worthy investment indeed.

Of course, there's no money in that so what we'll get instead are crappy ports that barely do anything better than before and people will buy it simply because of the nostalgic bomb it gives them instead of what should be an improved experience.

@Mmmmz

I'd probably pay at least $150 for a system that could be a bug free, high resolution, PS2 emulator.

Fail

Dammit! I wish I had seen this before buying that Toy Story 3 PS2 Bundle :(

So... a 22 inch monitor and a ten year old video game system for $300? Cool deal, dog.

Pffft.

Why not just get a $50 ps2 at gamestop and connect it to a much larger tv with better processing?

@Chazzr

Component looks much the same as HDMI.

That is one ugly tv.

So how come a 300 dollar tv can play ps2 games, but a 300 dollar ps3 cannot?

Cool concept, ugly ass design.
The bezel is so thick it looks like a laptop monitor from the early 90's.

Neat idea, although as many have noted PS2 games will probably not look too hot on an HDTV. Kind of makes you wonder why they didn't do this years ago.

so they're still making the PS2's exotic CPU+GPU? Why can't they stuff it into a PS3 now that it is cheaper, or come out with a dongle...not that I care, I got my 60gig for less than $300....back when they were still in stores.

Good idea but like a few have said before me, the idea is just way to late. This should have been implemented at least 4yrs ago while HDTV was still a hot commodity. As of now my sights are set on a 3D tv set. Wooooooo!

The only way I'd buy this is if it came with Ethernet capability. Hey some of us still play Gran Turismo 4 LAN and other games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_network_games

This would be a perfect TV for the bedroom. Surprised you don't mention that it's 22" anywhere in the article.

@01 it does say it in the model number they always list the size 22px3000 so its 22 inches i think people can understand that the size is part of the model number

@nightripper

I disagree, that's not exactly common knowledge. Unless you're a consumer who's done a lot of research/shopping for TV's, you probably wouldn't understand that little tid-bit.

Having said that, what the heck is the point of a 22" tv?

I would like to buy this, but id rather buy a slim ps2.

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