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Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:17PM Liquidfingers said
hmmm...so, if you can play a game like world of warcraft that requires you to move and use spells and attack and all this stuff, how can you not use kinect for a "core" game? i suppose that only time will tell if codename d and draco and all that stuff will be able to deliver the way a lot of us want them too. pretty cool technology...
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:12PM PhilipJWitow said
@Liquidfingers.
You COULD play a game like this with the Kinect, or you could just use a mouse and keyboard which would be 100x easier. I can't imagine many WoW players standing up and moving around for 10+ hours every day, although it may make a lot of them more fit.
I think it's also a matter of Microsoft selling the Kinect as a casual thing rather than trying actively to make hardcore games out of it.
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You COULD play a game like this with the Kinect, or you could just use a mouse and keyboard which would be 100x easier. I can't imagine many WoW players standing up and moving around for 10+ hours every day, although it may make a lot of them more fit.
I think it's also a matter of Microsoft selling the Kinect as a casual thing rather than trying actively to make hardcore games out of it.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:25PM LarZen said
@Liquidfingers He he he he *caugh* !!
Oh sorry about that..just read something realy funny! Wel you do know that most core games and especialy World of Warcraft have realy many functions in it?
I would realy like to see Kinect movement on all those functions..but hey...I like your optimism but im afraid you are dreaming ;)
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Oh sorry about that..just read something realy funny! Wel you do know that most core games and especialy World of Warcraft have realy many functions in it?
I would realy like to see Kinect movement on all those functions..but hey...I like your optimism but im afraid you are dreaming ;)
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 8:13PM philmcfail said
@PhilipJWitow
Standing itself won't make them fit, but perhaps making certain actions in game extra hard to perform might.
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Standing itself won't make them fit, but perhaps making certain actions in game extra hard to perform might.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 9:27PM Liquidfingers said
@LarZen
wow, i didn't think i was gushing with bubbly enthusiasm or anything, but thanks for being a dick about it. seeing as i don't even own a kinect yet, i think enthusiasm is all i can really have for the product. i really WANT something "core" that's "good" to come out for it, and what's wrong with that?
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wow, i didn't think i was gushing with bubbly enthusiasm or anything, but thanks for being a dick about it. seeing as i don't even own a kinect yet, i think enthusiasm is all i can really have for the product. i really WANT something "core" that's "good" to come out for it, and what's wrong with that?
Posted: Dec 29th 2010 12:34PM LarZen said
@Liquidfingers Did not mean to come out as a dick on your post, but I actualy thought it was fun to read. That said I have read so many post about people hoping Kinect wil make it's way in to the core games when most of us know the limitations of the system.
Thats why I think its so funny..not that you are a idiot or a dick like me. Its perfectly fine and a good thing to be optimistic about a product.
Happy xmas! :)
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Thats why I think its so funny..not that you are a idiot or a dick like me. Its perfectly fine and a good thing to be optimistic about a product.
Happy xmas! :)
Posted: Dec 29th 2010 7:00PM Liquidfingers said
@LarZen
ahh, well alls good. didn't mean to call you a dick for no reason, was just confused as to why you were seemingly laughing at me? ohhh well, teh internets is great!!!! happy new year
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ahh, well alls good. didn't mean to call you a dick for no reason, was just confused as to why you were seemingly laughing at me? ohhh well, teh internets is great!!!! happy new year
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:17PM Nytemare457 said
Hmmmm...
I could see this working if you could actually make hand positions for specific spells.
Fire ball would be shoryuken.
Ice blast would be RAISE THE ROOF.
...I guess you'd run out of positions fairly quickly...
I could see this working if you could actually make hand positions for specific spells.
Fire ball would be shoryuken.
Ice blast would be RAISE THE ROOF.
...I guess you'd run out of positions fairly quickly...
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:18PM Noodlestein said
This is interesting, would be fun to mess around with, though I doubt it'll increase my DPS at all ;P
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:31PM DokiDokiBawanga said
@Noodlestein i doubt this will be Working! for you.
see what i did thar?
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see what i did thar?
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:18PM aray48 said
awesome, but using a mouse and keyboard is still significantly easier :)
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:18PM apecrap said
Steven Seagal said 'diabetus'
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:19PM Roxas560 said
neat but doesnt look very effective
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:27PM Arsenal said
Kinect hacking is probably one of the best things to come out of the console world in a long, long time... This is pretty awesome though. We'd need a scroll of healing or something to learn all of the techniques... kinda of like the scrolls in Avatar (TV show) to learn bending. That being said though I don't think I'd last in a 3-4 hour raid if I had to gesture flash heal or renew 5000 times.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:33PM Pingles said
What is the motion for "LeeeeeroyJeeeeeeenkins!"
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 11:05PM Nolan North said
@Pingles
You have to buy a separate accessory in the form of a Turkey, and then run towards it
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You have to buy a separate accessory in the form of a Turkey, and then run towards it
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:40PM Emokitteh said
I can understand the technology being used to help someone in a therapeutic capacity, but I still have yet to see anything that Kinect can do to entice me to purchase it.
If it had potential for more than shovelware and a better sensor and an HD camera as it was previously reported to have and any real, solid use as a gaming peripheral, I might be inclined to feign interest in it.
I take issue with posting anything negative, and for that reason have refrained from posting on anything else Kinect related, but I'm having a really hard time biting my tongue right now. Sorry, I'll go post about something I do like, rainbows and cotton candy.
If it had potential for more than shovelware and a better sensor and an HD camera as it was previously reported to have and any real, solid use as a gaming peripheral, I might be inclined to feign interest in it.
I take issue with posting anything negative, and for that reason have refrained from posting on anything else Kinect related, but I'm having a really hard time biting my tongue right now. Sorry, I'll go post about something I do like, rainbows and cotton candy.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 9:03PM M1schiev0us said
@Emokitteh
I actually think this helps prove that Kinect has real promise as a gaming device. These guys just proved that fairly accurate real time movement in a 3d space is realistically possible with Kinect without having to run around your room.
I could see this being applied to something like Madden (I.E. - lean a direction to move your player, left hand pointed to proper receiver and throw motion to pass, palm out motion to tackle/stiff arm, etc.) or any number of 1st/3rd person shooters (I.E. - again, lean to move, one arm to aim/move screen, other hand in closed fist to fire, weapon selection via non aiming arm pump in a set direction, etc.) to make them more immersive once developers start using the potential of this thing.
Also, people forget that no one ever said you couldn't use a controller along with this thing at the same time...
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I actually think this helps prove that Kinect has real promise as a gaming device. These guys just proved that fairly accurate real time movement in a 3d space is realistically possible with Kinect without having to run around your room.
I could see this being applied to something like Madden (I.E. - lean a direction to move your player, left hand pointed to proper receiver and throw motion to pass, palm out motion to tackle/stiff arm, etc.) or any number of 1st/3rd person shooters (I.E. - again, lean to move, one arm to aim/move screen, other hand in closed fist to fire, weapon selection via non aiming arm pump in a set direction, etc.) to make them more immersive once developers start using the potential of this thing.
Also, people forget that no one ever said you couldn't use a controller along with this thing at the same time...
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 11:26PM oldmangamer said
Don't forget the ability to use voice commands.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2010 1:50AM Emokitteh said
@M1schiev0us
I see where it could be used in some of those games, I just feel that using Kinect in any shooter, be it online or off, will leave you either with a huge disadvantage to those using a traditional controller or will leave you with an inferior game if it is designed to be used with it.
I keep trying to figure out how you would turn, strafe or make other movement actions that wouldn't turn out awkward. You could make an on rails shooter where you only need to look forward, a little to the left and a little to the right, but still it isn't anything I would be interested in.
Madden, while still relevant to some, is something I haven't bothered with in the last 10 years. That too I can see Kinect being useful for, but a slower, dumbed down version separate from the normal release.
I'm sure some people would be interested in something along these lines, but again, I'm speaking of my own likes and interests.
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I see where it could be used in some of those games, I just feel that using Kinect in any shooter, be it online or off, will leave you either with a huge disadvantage to those using a traditional controller or will leave you with an inferior game if it is designed to be used with it.
I keep trying to figure out how you would turn, strafe or make other movement actions that wouldn't turn out awkward. You could make an on rails shooter where you only need to look forward, a little to the left and a little to the right, but still it isn't anything I would be interested in.
Madden, while still relevant to some, is something I haven't bothered with in the last 10 years. That too I can see Kinect being useful for, but a slower, dumbed down version separate from the normal release.
I'm sure some people would be interested in something along these lines, but again, I'm speaking of my own likes and interests.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 6:54PM brer said
I love that song choice, Royksopp 'it's what I want' think I'll put on the album right .... Now!
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:05PM Warfare20 said
@dswewo
MOre subtle. Still fail though.
MOre subtle. Still fail though.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:05PM Machiavellian79 said
One thing this proves is that a Kinect game doesn't have to be an on rails type game. You can move around it looks pretty easy with different body motions. Performing different actions also looks easy enough to accomplish and could turn a routine event where it was boring fun.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:11PM Hank Hill said
*Mandatory, stereotyping fat joke about WoW players hating exercise*
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:22PM huffhuffhuff said
Please add a wand controller for a movement and additional macros and numerous gestures for the spell effects and hand-to-hand fighting. I see potentials.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:22PM PICKLEBOY said
cool... but WoW sucks
Posted: Dec 29th 2010 12:32AM Faceless Troll said
@JCat I think Justin Bieber is irrefutable proof that taste and judgment have nothing to do with success.
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Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:23PM Uberdave said
LIGHTNING BOLT!
LIGHTNING BOLT!
LIGHTNING BOLT!
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:24PM Mister Darcy said
"You have a child playing World of Warcraft for six hours a day, perhaps a parent-"
I'm just going to go ahead and step in here to re-edit his little script...and...bam. Okay, go ahead and finish that new and improved sentence.
"Perhaps a parent could turn on the parental controls time locks allowing for only a short time of WoW a day, shut down the computer, and make the kid do something else."
I'm just going to go ahead and step in here to re-edit his little script...and...bam. Okay, go ahead and finish that new and improved sentence.
"Perhaps a parent could turn on the parental controls time locks allowing for only a short time of WoW a day, shut down the computer, and make the kid do something else."
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 7:28PM LarZen said
Wow...just wow....
They make Kinect work with one of the most static genra's out there. That is realy wel use of the technology Kinect has....rofl!
They make Kinect work with one of the most static genra's out there. That is realy wel use of the technology Kinect has....rofl!
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 8:00PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said
So this is how we can combat what we seen in Make Life, Not Warcraft.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 8:33PM The Only Girl said
It seems it'll cause severe back problems due to the "move forward" control.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 8:38PM Cavall said
Dont worry guys, I reported him to the WoW GM's for heavy modding.
I loved the first comment in the thread by liquid fingers:
"hmmm...so, if you can play a game like world of warcraft that requires you to move and use spells and attack and all this stuff, how can you not use kinect for a "core" game"
If WoW was an XBOX game, not a PC game, and if the people that made the damn thing had done so for it instead of having some guy hack it, then I could say it was possible. As is, its simply not doing what it was made for. I guess thats the defintion of the word hackers though isnt it? Using tech outside the parameters of its intended use?
I loved the first comment in the thread by liquid fingers:
"hmmm...so, if you can play a game like world of warcraft that requires you to move and use spells and attack and all this stuff, how can you not use kinect for a "core" game"
If WoW was an XBOX game, not a PC game, and if the people that made the damn thing had done so for it instead of having some guy hack it, then I could say it was possible. As is, its simply not doing what it was made for. I guess thats the defintion of the word hackers though isnt it? Using tech outside the parameters of its intended use?
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 8:54PM M1schiev0us said
@Cavall
The only thing unintended about this is platform choice. In terms of actual purpose however it's doing exactly what it was made for, controlling WoW game play without a physical device. Not as well as a KB/Mouse obviously but hey it's a first step. Applying this to an Xbox game is simply a matter of proper programing by a developer.
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The only thing unintended about this is platform choice. In terms of actual purpose however it's doing exactly what it was made for, controlling WoW game play without a physical device. Not as well as a KB/Mouse obviously but hey it's a first step. Applying this to an Xbox game is simply a matter of proper programing by a developer.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 9:33PM Pingles said
Kinect has some neat potential but I sure hope it's not used to use semaphore commands in games.
Isn't this kinda like just wiggling a Wii controller different directions for commands.
Isn't this kinda like just wiggling a Wii controller different directions for commands.
Posted: Dec 28th 2010 9:33PM shadowhowl1900 said
id be funny if a horde came and just gank that guy while he was talking
Posted: Dec 29th 2010 1:28PM Sordid State of Eclairs said
Looked amazing and I am impressed with what they are able to do.
It'd be absolute torture, though if you had an amazing burger (or two!) drink and fries sitting beside you though and you couldn't make a move to eat it halfway between casting because kinect would be like "wtf you tryin' to do, fool?"
It'd be absolute torture, though if you had an amazing burger (or two!) drink and fries sitting beside you though and you couldn't make a move to eat it halfway between casting because kinect would be like "wtf you tryin' to do, fool?"
Posted: Dec 29th 2010 2:58PM Negatron said
Very innovative but just the wrong Genre/ game to use for the demo...
Play play play is the focal point but, there is a reason you sit down...
-Farming ( for materials, reputation)
-Standing around waiting on your group for a raid/dungeon run.
-Auction house, shopping/ selling.
I can go on and on...
Another attempt to get Blizzards attention ( i guess) or just the masses in general by using a popular medium. Nice and fail all at once.
Play play play is the focal point but, there is a reason you sit down...
-Farming ( for materials, reputation)
-Standing around waiting on your group for a raid/dungeon run.
-Auction house, shopping/ selling.
I can go on and on...
Another attempt to get Blizzards attention ( i guess) or just the masses in general by using a popular medium. Nice and fail all at once.
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