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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:11AM Billlop said

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Wow. DLC before its even out. nice (!)

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:17AM Elranzer said

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You can always count on EA for that.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:30PM Liquidfingers said

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@Billlop

i still don't understand why or how they can even do this...
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:55PM oxfordfishsalon said

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@Billlop
Eh, it's not as bad as hiding future DLC content on the disk then unlocking a week after release.

Oh wait, yes it is.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 2:13PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said

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@Liquidfingers

It's easy to understand why and how when you look at it through the business standpoint.

Why: To combat used game sales, piracy, or to make the fact you pre-ordered it for the signature edition mean something.

How: They either take a portion of the game and make it DLC or create a add on story to the game and use it as leverage as DLC.

In the end I rather have things like this at least be their way to combat used games sales and so on instead of some form of individual code DRM. I mean while I like the Dragon Age franchise I just recently purchased the first one because of the Ultimate Edition. I'll do the same for Dragon Age come the end of the year. I know they are going to release a ton of DLC I'd rather get those things in one bang that's at least cost effective.

Patience is a virtue
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 2:35PM Red Runner said

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@Billlop

They're just following the Capcom model. Watch them use the good ol' "it was content we had to cut from the disc" release.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 10:31PM isotrex said

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@Billlop

... and it's already has a price. lol!
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Posted: Jan 8th 2011 6:12AM Draimen said

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@Stevetrop Man of Mystery The problem is, is that pirates can still acquire and use the DLC as well, so it doesn't really combat piracy at all.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:13AM Drew327 said

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I love me some Bioware; but DLC announcements before a game is out still feels wrong

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:52AM klobbermang said

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@Drew327 It's not really DLC in the traditional sense. It's a way to persuade people to buy the games new since you cant redeem the code on a used copy.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:55AM Drew327 said

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@klobbermang Hmm, you are right. We need a new term... I guess this is more of their project 10$, or in this case 7$
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:10PM fohf said

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@klobbermang
Except it doesn't even come with a new purchase unless you pre-ordered it as well. So really it's just EA and BIoware holding parts of the full game for ransom.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:46PM koehler83 said

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@Drew327 NPI

New Purchase Incentive
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:50PM Tsacdop said

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@Drew327
Feels like they could have added into the game before release. Oh well whatever makes them richer.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:54PM adrunkamputee said

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@fohf
Corporations are not non-profit organizations. They require money to keep the lights on, pay developers, and produce top quality games. One method of generating capital is to maximize pre-orders. They will take steps to provide incentive for new purchases to avoid losing revenue to Gamestop for those that choose to buy their games used. They may choose to do this by taking away content from those who buy used. None of this should shock anyone.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 2:37PM Red Runner said

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@adrunkamputee

1. Bioware will make boatloads of cash regardless because people think their games are like the second coming.

2. Used sales aren't the devil.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 3:40PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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@Red Runner
So why would the corporation feel compelled to add extra stuff to the game for free, if they're already content that they've done enough to sell a boatload and get critical acclaim? Just to be nice guys and throw money at the wind?

And I'm surprised that you're not against used sales given your conviction against piracy. After all, don't they both remove direct sales from the publisher and developer? One's just more legal, is all.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 8:44PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Tsacdop

Companies have been creating pre-order exclusive content before the whole DLC thing became big.

It's only now that their offering it to over people at a later date that people being to complain about it.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:15AM ShadowMonkey987 said

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They did this with Dragon Age : Origins

But at least the price is cheaper this time.. (Seriously some people actually brought Shale's DLC for 1200MSP just for 2 Achievements)

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:25AM Cleric said

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@ShadowMonkey987

Not on PC it's not.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:31AM Fillem said

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@ShadowMonkey987
Still, Shale was much more than 2 achievement. Whole nice little backstory and developed quests for him and a great NPC to bring with you to the Deep Roads.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:54AM Dirty said

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@ShadowMonkey987

For him? If you took Shale to the deep roads you would know that HE is a SHE.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 3:01PM Fullmetal Salchemist said

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@ShadowMonkey987

Not exactly. Shale was included in the box regardless of whether or not you preordered. You just had to buy the game.

Giving away DLC as pre-order incentives is bullshit.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 3:05PM ShadowMonkey987 said

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@Dirty I never said that shale was a he

I also never said that shale was a she..

Fillem said that not me..
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 6:41PM Dirty said

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@ShadowMonkey987

Yea wasn't blaming you. I was nerd raging on fillem, mostly because its funny of how big a nerd I am.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:20AM Epoque said

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@Billlop & Drew327

It's selling preorder incentives to people who buy the standard edition at or after launch. I don't see the big deal ... if you want it so badly, preorder the game.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:25AM sammo21 said

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So is this only if you preorder the game from EA/Bioware directly? Before the extra quest DLC was from if you bought the game new, not preorderderd it....

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:30AM Saiphos said

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@sammo21 If you pre-order it on or before Jan. 11, you get the signature edition which includes this DLC. I know Amazon and GameStop have it, not sure who else.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:37AM Mayor West said

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@sammo21

No you can pre-order anywhere. It's not just directly from Bioware. I pre-ordered mine from Amazon.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:27AM Adamonius said

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Anybody else getting a strong Nate Howe vibe? (Wronged nobleman takes up a bow to exact revenge on those who killed/ruined his family...)

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 1:06PM adrunkamputee said

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@Adamonius
I wouldn't know. I hung his traitorous arse the first chance I got.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:28AM Hunter141072 said

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too bad this means i´ll have to wait more than a year to play this game in full untill all the dlc is available.... :P oh well, hope they release the last DLC for mass effect 2 so i can play it.....now that i remember i lost my saved game of mass effect 1...well, guess i had to replay that one too.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:35AM Mama Luigi said

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I won't scream at the top of my lungs for free DLC.

I'm a happy panda.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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It's always a revenge story.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:46AM jmr1986 said

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Well i guess i'm gonna wait a year and buy the Ultimate Edition like a did with Origins, seriusly getting DAO + all DLC for 25$ was a great deal.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:58AM baby sea tuna said

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@jmr1986

If you can wait. Personally, I probably spent somewhere around $150 on the game, the expansions, and all the add-on missions...and I still feel like I made out like a bandit!
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:19PM Richard Jae said

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@jmr1986

I actually bought DA:O when it first came out (only for it to fall in price quite dramatically within 2 weeks) and the Ultimate edition because the total cost of the DLC and Awakening was actually higher than the Ultimate edition.

Yet I preordered this the second I could. I know I should have learned a lesson at one point, but playing it when it comes out...can't beat that (Mostly due to friends that want it and will talk about it constantly when it comes out.)
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 1:06PM jmr1986 said

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@baby sea tuna @ Richard Jae As much as i enjoy having a game on the release date i've learn that buying game at launch isn't really good for me, where i'm from games aren't cheap but i've to admit that playing a game on the release date it's pretty awesome.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 2:36PM zsavior said

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@jmr1986

I'm actually playing that ultimate edition now, bought it off of steam this holiday season. Got to admit this game is great, and I enjoy killing hellish minions with a sword that spouts butterflies!
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:48AM blueskyv201 said

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All that talk about the improved graphics engine, bullcrap.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 1:07PM jsx92 said

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Still looks like the same PS2 graphics to me.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 2:37PM MyAbsolution said

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@jsx92

Yeah looks identical.........
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Posted: Jan 8th 2011 8:06PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@jsx92

you must have had a special PS2 that could put out uber graphics then.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:53AM baby sea tuna said

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@C1

Yeah, now you'll only get 99 hours of playtime out of this instead of 100.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 11:59AM Corsia said

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DLC before a game launches. This is something I'm on the fence about. On one side, yeah, just put it in the freaking game. But on the other side I can see that they actually finish making a game at least a month before it comes out. So during that time maybe they worked on something really fast to add afterwards.
I'm working on a game, but I will not have anything like this. I have worked on it for 5 years and will work on it for decades more until it has every last bit of material I want. To see the game you can go to www.corsia.webs.com

Posted: Jan 9th 2011 6:53AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Corsia

There's a difference here though. They announced months and months ago that if you pre-ordered the game before January 11th you would get a special edition that included an exclusive DLC.

They haven't cut anything from the game or reduced the final experience for people. It was always intended from the start to be outside the main game. They've simply given the opportunity for people who didn't pre-order the game to experience the DLC if they wish too.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:01PM swooded said

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@C1
This is not stopping anyone that wanted the game from buying it or driving customers that would have been paying customers anyway away. This is just giving the people that only buy used, as a rule, and would not have per-ordered or bought new anyway, something to complain about. If a pre-order bonus drives you away from pre-ordering or paying for a game, you are doing it wrong.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:09PM baby sea tuna said

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@swooded

Or, god forbid, pirating it.

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:17PM Petebot330 said

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Yeah...gonna wait on getting this game for a while...

Posted: Jan 7th 2011 12:19PM Gasaraki said

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Don't f-ing tell us about DLCs before the game is even out. All this tells us is that while you could have put this in the game but chose not to because you are little money grubbers. I will NEVER buy DLCs that come out with a game on release day.

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