Kinect Hacks: Gesture-based Modern Warfare, Zelda and Doom
by Griffin McElroy 
on Jan 9th 2011 7:30PM
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Posted: Jan 9th 2011 7:43PM US 447 said
Its too bad that as much as microsoft wants to get rid of the conroller, kinect will need a controller for truly core games.
Posted: Jan 10th 2011 6:45AM shopping bags said
@US 447 Microsoft never intended for people to play fps's on kinect that's why it's not failing like move.
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Posted: Jan 11th 2011 1:36AM shopping bags said
@Faenix lol look at move's strategy man trying to make fighting games and FPS with motion sensing. Nobody wants to moev around to play Shooters that stupid people get tired. Kinect has none of that because its meant for the casual crowd which is what the wii did. Compared to kinect Move sucks.
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Posted: Jan 9th 2011 7:48PM willooi said
He's done a great job, they should hire him. Here's the future of motion-based gaming - however Microsoft will need a buttoned apparatus to work in conjunction with Kinect, or make it so that you'd be holding an invisible weapon of some sort!
Ideally the controls should let you customise motions for certain actions, e.g. jumping, running. But wow, I've dreamed of controls like this ever since the Nintendo Power Glove lied to us through false advertising!
Playing the current gen Fallouts by bringing your wrist up to access the Pip-boy, scaling buildings and parrying sword strikes in Assassins' Creed, doing hadoukens in Street Fighter... the possibilities are endless.
Ideally the controls should let you customise motions for certain actions, e.g. jumping, running. But wow, I've dreamed of controls like this ever since the Nintendo Power Glove lied to us through false advertising!
Playing the current gen Fallouts by bringing your wrist up to access the Pip-boy, scaling buildings and parrying sword strikes in Assassins' Creed, doing hadoukens in Street Fighter... the possibilities are endless.
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 7:53PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said
@willooi
At some point in time to advance some games for kinect there is going to have to be some form of physical medium. Some sort of controller that can help you control your movement in the games just beyond waving arms and legs.
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At some point in time to advance some games for kinect there is going to have to be some form of physical medium. Some sort of controller that can help you control your movement in the games just beyond waving arms and legs.
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:19PM willooi said
@Stevetrop Man of Mystery
Remember the first forays into Virtual Reality in the early 90s? With VR helmets and treadmills to simulate movement? They were very underwhelming even back then, but the blueprint was somewhat set for today's technology.
The biggest challenge, I agree with you, will be with directional, walking movement and taking that away from controller inputs. How will they do it? Walking on the spot is awkward, and all alternatives such as actually moving forwards or backwards or strafing side to side will eventually result in there not being enough room for a home console scheme.
Maybe they could bring back the treadmill and make it 8-directional?
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Remember the first forays into Virtual Reality in the early 90s? With VR helmets and treadmills to simulate movement? They were very underwhelming even back then, but the blueprint was somewhat set for today's technology.
The biggest challenge, I agree with you, will be with directional, walking movement and taking that away from controller inputs. How will they do it? Walking on the spot is awkward, and all alternatives such as actually moving forwards or backwards or strafing side to side will eventually result in there not being enough room for a home console scheme.
Maybe they could bring back the treadmill and make it 8-directional?
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:40PM LockeDaemonfire said
@canajew
I remember seeing one where the guy was in a big sphere that rotated where he walked so that he stayed in the same place. Problem would be that it would always feel like an incline, but I suppose that's good exercise?
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I remember seeing one where the guy was in a big sphere that rotated where he walked so that he stayed in the same place. Problem would be that it would always feel like an incline, but I suppose that's good exercise?
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 10:51PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@Stevetrop Man of Mystery
If only there was a company that used a camera in conunctin with a controller for motion gaming. Man, that seems like such a good idea you'd figure someone would have come up with it by now. It'd be like taking the best things from Kinect and the Wii and combining them together.
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If only there was a company that used a camera in conunctin with a controller for motion gaming. Man, that seems like such a good idea you'd figure someone would have come up with it by now. It'd be like taking the best things from Kinect and the Wii and combining them together.
/s
Posted: Jan 10th 2011 11:46AM adrunkamputee said
@willooi
What are you talking about? I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.
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What are you talking about? I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:19PM Dhexodus said
I would imagine you could just use a watergun as a solid medium.
That is if Microsoft didn't overkill their Natal..er Kinect advertisement (the one with a kid scanning his skateboard).
That is if Microsoft didn't overkill their Natal..er Kinect advertisement (the one with a kid scanning his skateboard).
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:22PM kyte420 said
Didn't Namco make a gun with an analog stick for one of their time crisis games?
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:27PM brer said
"this is better than any of the games for Kinect"
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 8:29PM bre30127 said
Half of his movements are leaning which can be done while holding a regular controler. Or... Micorsoft could make a controler that looks just like the current one but when you twist it and seperate it, you can have one half in each hand. That way, you could play the game with a standard controler or buy the new one and have something special to use with kinect.
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 9:39PM FrodoTBaggins said
Not trying to be a d1ck but isn't this just the Move...
I like the idea of jumping and what not but it really is no different to where the Move is going.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of the kinect but these kinda games are not really what it's aiming at...yet
What this guy has achieved by himself is pretty amazing but MS will have to get a lot more creative if they look to move into the hardcore space. The beauty of the kinect is no controller, they wouldn't want to have to change the kinect slogan to "You are the controller, and your controller is also the controller." not quite as catchy...
I like the idea of jumping and what not but it really is no different to where the Move is going.
Don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of the kinect but these kinda games are not really what it's aiming at...yet
What this guy has achieved by himself is pretty amazing but MS will have to get a lot more creative if they look to move into the hardcore space. The beauty of the kinect is no controller, they wouldn't want to have to change the kinect slogan to "You are the controller, and your controller is also the controller." not quite as catchy...
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 10:57PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@US 447
Hacks are great for one off experiments but as you could see the implementation was so rough it'd be unplayable over the course of an entire game. Sony needs the developers to adopt move controls as optional in their titles ... they don't need a bunch of college students making "hacks."
At the end of the day this demonstartion is basically a worse version of the move. Granted, it's on games that couldn't be played with Move but still this just underscores the fact that Move is better and was more thought out than Kinect.
Sony has been there and done that in terms of the Natal with tangible objects thing. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoxKDcCXc
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Hacks are great for one off experiments but as you could see the implementation was so rough it'd be unplayable over the course of an entire game. Sony needs the developers to adopt move controls as optional in their titles ... they don't need a bunch of college students making "hacks."
At the end of the day this demonstartion is basically a worse version of the move. Granted, it's on games that couldn't be played with Move but still this just underscores the fact that Move is better and was more thought out than Kinect.
Sony has been there and done that in terms of the Natal with tangible objects thing. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoxKDcCXc
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 10:24PM Greippi said
@sdhjktylyu
That house makes me feel so hot, I just have to click those links! Uhhhhgh, cannot resist!
But really, isn't there some more discreet fashion of advertising/spam than this?
How about the Prince of Middle Earth needing to borrow my bank account. That always works.
That house makes me feel so hot, I just have to click those links! Uhhhhgh, cannot resist!
But really, isn't there some more discreet fashion of advertising/spam than this?
How about the Prince of Middle Earth needing to borrow my bank account. That always works.
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 11:37PM QuePasa87 said
"Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. "
-Jurassic Park
-Jurassic Park
Posted: Jan 9th 2011 11:39PM QuePasa87 said
Posted: Jan 10th 2011 3:36AM Mortuvir said
Every second i watch this guy play zelda, doom and modern warfare. My heart beats slower and soul whispers to me "why do this man have to put us through this torture, why does have use this awesome kinect hack superb games and not mediocore games. Oh WHY!"
Posted: Jan 10th 2011 12:10PM Jackovy Boehner said
People didn't really think it was very interesting to remap button presses to extraneous and slow reacting body movements when people where doing it with the Sega activator, the u-force, or the power glove so why is it that people are so supportive of it in this era?
Could it be because back then people actually had a wide variety of games to play (everything from Doom to Link to the Past, come to think of it) instead of millions of minigame collections and homogenized "hardcore games" that basically all just act as near exact duplicates of Call of Duty, Gears of War, and God of War, beating the exact same visuals and mechanics into our heads over and over and over again in a sort of KFC famous bowl like slop mound of gaming starch?
Could it be because back then people actually had a wide variety of games to play (everything from Doom to Link to the Past, come to think of it) instead of millions of minigame collections and homogenized "hardcore games" that basically all just act as near exact duplicates of Call of Duty, Gears of War, and God of War, beating the exact same visuals and mechanics into our heads over and over and over again in a sort of KFC famous bowl like slop mound of gaming starch?
Posted: Jan 10th 2011 12:19PM Jackovy Boehner said
Now people need some sort of flashy peripheral or extra device to keep themselves interested in gaming, because we've gotten to the point where the only mechanics that exist are "shake something to finish a minigame" or "get locked in an arena with a rocket launcher and a helicopter (or if the game designers are feeling whimsical and impish, a grenade launcher and 2 helicopters)."
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