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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:03PM Enosoma said

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There's no such thing as a "casual follower" of professional wrestling. At least, not NORTH of the border.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:33PM Undying said

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@Enosoma

Tell that to the thousands of people that tune out when Cena is on on the show.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:48PM Hoarr said

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@Enosoma Um...I'm a casual follower of professional wrestling.

So...yeah.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:55PM TaintedKane said

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@Enosoma

Yeah I'm also a casual follower now and I'm from Canada. If thats what you mean North of the Border. And I have the WWE logo as my pic.

So... yeah.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 9:55PM Enosoma said

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@Enosoma

I was implying that if you follow wrestling, it's not casual. At least to those who don't follow wrestling. And the north of the border was referring to wrestling in Mexico and how they hold it in such high regard in their country.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:04PM Enosoma said

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Anyway, I had a wrestling game once, on the SNES (maybe it was Genesis). I couldn't get over the fact that they (everyone) moved like robots. All stiff and shit. And then I saw a wrestling game on the PS2. They still moved like robots. Then while channel surfing, I saw wrestling on TV. They moved like human beings. It did not compute.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:05PM Enosoma said

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Take a careful look at the last screenshot in the post. Obvious robotics.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:08PM Prboi said

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@Enosoma

It's a game. A wrestling game at that. You can't set your standards too high when it comes to these games. Check Smackdown Vs. Raw 2011, I'm sure you'll find that more "realistic".
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:07PM Coldplay619 said

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What a shitty generation of wrestling we live in.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2011 5:50PM Skornenicholas said

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@Coldplay619 Couldn't have said it better myself. Those of us who grew up watching with awe Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, Bret Heart, Paul Orndorff, Arn Anderson. Wrestling was outrageously silly yes, but self contained, what destroyed the WWE is that they became money hungry instead of doing what they do best, entertain. It's ironic really, they push out marketable stars like John Cena, who HATES his gimmick by the way, to sell merchandise. Wrestling is, in reality, a form of interpretative dance; just you know, with blood such. The day "Hardcore" went mainstream, it was over.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:08PM EDZiLLUH said

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saw the images & wow is it me or does The Rock & Triple H look like they took steroids.?!

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:08PM Tradio said

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The best wrestling game engine was the THQ engine for WCW/NWO Revenge...one of the greatest N64 games ever

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:08PM Timjoy said

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Bring back the aki engine.

Virtual pro wrestling 64
Virtual pro wrestling 2
WCW vs NWO world tour
WCW vs NWO revenge
Wrestlemania 2000
WWF no mercy
even Def jam vendetta was decent

Everything else is garbage


Bring Back AKI!!!!

On a side note the fire pro games are good in the 2d space

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:14PM Prboi said

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@Timjoy

Stop living in the past. Embrace the future or you will be a very, very miserable person
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:38PM Voshempa said

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@Timjoy Ever play Day of Reckoning on GameCube? Just curious as to how those compare to it. I played a WCW game on 64 back in the day and enjoyed it but I'm not sure what it was.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:41PM Morph156 said

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@Prboi
Why embrace the future if the gameplay sucks?

And you can't come at me with that "try it" rebuttal because time after time I have tried the new games and haven't enjoyed them at all. The last wrestling game I owned was Day of Reckoning 2. It wasn't bad, but the AKI engine just played more smoothly.

I keep renting these newer games and sending them back because I simply don't enjoy the gameplay.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:03PM FrodoTBaggins said

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@Prboi
*Sprays water on face*
Don't you EVER tell me how to live my life again.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:14PM Prboi said

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@FrodoTBaggins

I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm giving you advice on how to stay positive. I can't stand people who bitch & complain about things change from what they used to be. Like they expected things to be the same forever. Those people are stuck in the past & I only want to help them move forward so they stop complaining about how things were. Imagine you were in a room full of old people who thought the idea of a cellphone was stupid or the idea of facebook or the internet was garbage. It can get pretty annoying.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:20PM Hellion4242 said

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@Prboi

So, you stay positive by being negative about people who prefer different things than you do.

Got it.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:58PM Mcmax3000 said

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@Prboi - I don't think anybody here expected things to be the same forever... We expected things to get better over time and a lot of people, myself included, feel that the WWF/WWE games have gone down in quality since the days when AKI developed games for the N64.

Hence we want to see them return to developing WWE games since we believe they were superior games in pretty much every measurable way.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:00PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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@Timjoy
Well said, No Mercy was one of my favorite wrestling games.

Problem is that there's no legitimate competition in the wrestling game space, since the WWE license is pretty much the be all and end all of everything. So while minor improvements or new features are added each year to the Smackdown games, there's noone to really counter them with the fact that the core gameplay just doesn't hold up that well anymore, or that some of their features are better in concept than implementation.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:11PM EDZiLLUH said

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but i have to say my favorite wrestling game was No Mercy for N64. i would play it for hours with my friends. never pinning each other just kept fighting lol

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:07PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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@EDZiLLUH
I loved the fact that for the people's elbow, you were actually in control of the whole finisher, and it wasn't a simple 10 cutscene. Blows my mind that finishers still can't be interrupted in these modern games.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2011 2:08AM maveric101 said

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@EDZiLLUH

i think my favorite wrestling game was NFL Blitz 2000.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:18PM Timjoy said

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I'm just trying to help thq make money. The new games simply suck. Look at the ratings.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:35PM Prboi said

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@Timjoy

So you base your opinion on someone else's opinion who may not even like wrestling to begin with. Base games on how you feel about them not on what others think. You like all those old school games but I can bet you anything that there were people who hated them. They had their reasons for it & didn't go by what others said. Make your own opinions & try things that YOU think you will like. I like the recent wrestling games more than the ones in the past.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:55PM biskits said

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@Timjoy
Metacritic scores:
Smackdown vs Raw 2011
PS3-74
360-75
Smackdown vs Raw 2010
PS3-81
360-80
I agree i did enjoy the N64 games better, however these scores are not bad. Even 2009's scores where in the high 70s.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:37PM LuckyEMS said

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My favourite wrestling game is clearly WWF Attitude on Dreamcast :-)

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:44PM MC Double Def DP said

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I was about to rant that I remember playing as my man Randy Savage on Royal Rumble for SNES & Superstars for Gameboy...but those were "WWF" and now WWE games, so I'll let it pass... anyways, glad to see the Madness return!

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:44PM mrmobius said

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Can we get an updated WWF No Mercy on 3DS with the latest roster (prefer old roster still but it'd not have the same sales)?

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:45PM Clown said

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Im all about the AKI business. Those were the clean games. But Randy Savage has been in WWE games before unless your talking actual "wwe" and not "wwf" even though its the same game.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 5:50PM Mcmax3000 said

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I also miss the AKI games.

That was a time when wrestling games could be both accessible and simulations.

Now, you get one or the other. The last SvR game I played (2008) had the simulation part down but the controls were horribly convoluted. I had to press like three buttons just to run.

As a lifelong wrestling fan who always enjoyed wrestling games, it pains me to see just how uninteresting the genre has become. I think the last one I bought was Legends of Wrestlemania, which was good but nothing spectacular.

TNA iMPACT showed promise but then Midway went out of business. It seemed like a game that could've been really strong by the second or third iteration.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:40PM bryoneill11 said

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Wcw/Nwo Revenge- Best wrestling game ever (We need an HD remake)
with the original songs from every wrestler

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:06PM TrickyBandit said

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@bryoneill11 I loved that one too. But I liked the original Wrestlemania one for N64 better, but I think that they used the same engine. I loved how if you were playing a career match and someone came out and interrupted the match then you could barely get a punch in on them and you would always be laying down in 5 seconds waiting to be pinned. Lol, it was the closest game I have ever played in comparison to what happened on television. I am in full support of your idea for an HD Remake whether it be Wrestlemania or WCW vs. NWO
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:49PM TrickyBandit said

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I used to be a huge fan of wrestling back in the RAW days of the 90's, now not so much. With that said I still like to get a wrestling game from time to time, but I never play with the current roster, I always end up playing with the Legends. The huge roster of Legends as well as the casual sense of gameplay (that will be good for my kids) have this as an "almost" day one purchase. Go ahead and announce that Stone Cold will be one of the wrestlers and I will be marching my candy ass down to GameStop and pre-ordering today.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:54PM Mcmax3000 said

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@TrickyBandit - I thought he had been shown in the game but it seems as though I was wrong. I'll be shocked if he's not in the game considering he's been an unlockable legend in pretty much every WWE game that THQ has made since he retired.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:01PM TrickyBandit said

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@Mcmax3000 I would be shocked if he is not in the game also for the same reasons that you mentioned, but I still want to hear it first. But with them having Andre the Giant and The Macho Man in it, I may already be sold. I was very excited about the last Legends game until a friend of mine bought it. I loved the roster, but the QTE control scheme killed it for me. I was worried that this game would follow in those steps since their excuse for that was that it made it more "casual friendly". But so far I have seen nothing that points to that control scheme being implemented in this game.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:57PM Clown said

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I did enjoy Road to Wrestlemania for the 64. the Royal Rumbles were the shiznit

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 6:59PM TaintedKane said

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So no one liked the SmackDown vs Raw 2007? I think wrestling games have failed since then.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:18PM Snowblind said

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@TaintedKane
It wasn't as good as 2006 and they've only been going downhill from there. Would love to see 2012 go back and rethink the entire formula, instead of just being another rehash.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:52PM Mcmax3000 said

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@TaintedKane - I actually really enjoyed SvR 2007. It was an excellent game. It was 2008 when the series started going downhill. I haven't even played any of the SvR games since because I hated 2008 so much.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:05PM Advocate05 said

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I like how the reporter said the wrestlers signature moves aren't being utilized. REALLY? The vid shows their finishers being used, so one can presume their signature moves are as well. This guy is a dumb dumb dumby.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 7:06PM Andrew Yoon said

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@Advocate05 Please read! "But when the wrestlers' signature moves aren't being utilized" WHEN. WHEN.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:04PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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Anyone get the feeling that controlling WWE superstars would be more fun as a side scrolling beat-em-up set in Metro City?

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:51PM saintstryfe said

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@Crayola Q Pants ESQ

They actually tried that with WM XVII on the GC - it sucked.4
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:19PM Cafecito said

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I loved that Wrestlemania "the arcade game" of old. This kinda looks a little bit like that.

Posted: Jan 19th 2011 10:11PM Clown said

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@Cafecito I def popped some major monies into that box.

And that had Randy Savage in it also. And Hawk and Animal. rip hawk
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2011 3:31PM TheRedComet said

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@Cafecito


I had it for the PC. It was by Acclaim and it owned.
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2011 9:12PM Cafecito said

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@Clown I meant that one with Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Doink.... Yokozuna...
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Posted: Jan 19th 2011 8:40PM RENEgadeRSO said

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I think some of you are a bit too nice when it comes to reminiscing about aki's game engine on the N64. Maybe it was because all you had was an N64. I had a playstation, so I played Smackdown 1 & 2. I preferred the engine of those two over Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy, though I liked No Mercy due to the fact that it had much better customizations for characters. The fighting/graphics engine was just weak in aki's games. Why did characters block with their chests? Why didn't their shoulders connect to their bodies? It was too slow for me as well. Don't be blinded by nostalgia. Don't be like all the other people who say "Mario kart is the bestest game ever since I was a kid, lololol." Yet, it's a terribly flawed series.

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