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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 7:51PM gatotsu911 said

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Yeah, I saw this today. I'm glad nobody else was in the room with me, or I would have ended up facepalming hard. She goes on and on about how great games are without once explaining why. She says that gamers should be encouraged to act in real life the way they do in their games - um, what? Has she ever seen someone play Grand Theft Auto? Or played even a single game on Xbox Live? Seeing someone on TV who was supposed to represent gamers say the phrase "epic win", though, had to be the worst part for me.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:15PM WMcPete said

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@Frank the tank

Interesting statistics. I don't buy any of them.

Actually, wait. If she is referring to cell phone apps as games, then I will buy that 94% of all girls under the age of 18 are gamers, like she said.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:16PM SisypheanLife said

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@WMcPete

Facebook games and mobile phone games are games. She simply says games, not First Person Shooters.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:42PM RageOverdose said

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@gatotsu911

So an entire book she wrote and got published she should just explain? For one, not only is it difficult to do that in 3 or so minutes while still being comically jabbed at by Colbert, but it's also stupid because then you'd have no reason to buy the book.

I trust that the statistics are true, but the schema you use when actually reading those statistics may be a bit off base. She never clarified how strict the definition of gaming is so it could include very casual games like you find on app stores or on the web. Games may even include things like Wii Fit or something.

Also, while she may really mean it, I think the point about utilizing in game what you do in real life is more or less certain generalized skills, such as logic or communication, depending on the game you play.

I don't like her comments about time wasting and productivity, because there are still a decent number of human beings who don't get shit done because of video games, or could get more shit done wasting time on video games. Maybe my concession to that, however, is that the amount of hours she wanted the world to play was based off of a huge number of people playing for like, 1 hour, so I'm sure she understands that you can waste time, but I hope she actually makes a point about that.

If I'm going to pay attention by something supposedly backed up by science and proper statistics, however, I'd prefer a more academic/scientific-minded book, I'm sure her book is catered more to convince people rationally that games are not a loser's hobby.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:51PM bensmith91 said

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@gatotsu911

In her book, I believe she specifies that co-op games being played in person with others are the most beneficial, and I think you'd agree that these are generally a better atmosphere than the typical XBL matchup.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 1:37AM gatotsu911 said

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@RageOverdose
Um, yes, she should explain her book. I watch Colbert every day, and plenty of his guests have managed to effectively summarize the content of their books over the course of his interview segment in such a way that they are actually communicating something of substance while still inviting viewers to buy the book. In this interview McGonigal communicated nothing of substance, merely out-of-context statistics and unsubstantiated (and unjustified!) claims.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 2:10AM Integral said

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@Frank the tank
that's actually a fact
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 12:59PM Ellimem said

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@Frank the tank Learn to read the ESA reports. Her stats were all spot on.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 7:57PM Frank the tank said

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I never eat Cheetos when I'm gaming AND i dont smoke pot.

I saw him live and it was awesome!

WOW these ads are getting longer and longer 30 sec and on youtube ive been seeing for as long as 45 secs uhhhh!!!

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:00PM NinjaJesus said

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Hey son, if you kill that hooker...you get your money back.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:16PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@NinjaJesus

And then you can go out on the street and kill a prettier hooker than you might have without video games!
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:12PM WMcPete said

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Oh, geeze... I am happy she is trying to help us out and all, but c'mon. She is making it worse. I have never felt self conscience or embarrassed to be a gamer, but after listening to her, I think I should be.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:52PM jameshauler said

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@WMcPete why would you be embarrassed after listening to her?... cause she said a lot of people play video games?
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:32PM WMcPete said

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@jameshauler

gaming is one of the most productive pasttimes? She said it, not me. I like playing video games and all, but the increase in time she thinks the world should dedicate to gaming sounds a little weird to me. Listening to her from a non gaming perspective would make her and her ideas seem a little batty, I think.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 11:08AM TreeFoxx said

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@WMcPete Also, one of her main examples of positive game-related activities was a "game that helps cure cancer". I'm pretty sure she's talking about Folding@home. Which isn't so much a game as it is a program that happens to run on a PS3. So I'm fairly certain most of her facts are pretty skewed.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:15PM SisypheanLife said

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I always choose the dark path/bad karma when faced with a moral dilemma in a video game. Apparently, I really am a bad person.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:26PM Arturis said

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Sorry to go against the comment trend here, but I don't really think she did a bad job in this interview. She had 3 minutes to try to summarize the concept of her 20 minute TED talk, and she hit all the major notes while deflecting the playful jabs that Colbert is known for.

Watch her TED presentation, its fascinating:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:55PM Dao Jones said

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@Arturis Indeed, she is a fascinating woman. Read a bunch of stuff about her on rockpapershotgun.com and I had no idea she was going to be at PAX East! Hopefully I can catch her keynote. :)
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 8:59PM ArchiGamer said

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As did I.

Can't understand why some didn't her interview at least informative.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:21PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@ArchiGamer

I thought the interview was fine, but I always get shifty-bad-guy eyes when people like her laud gaming and use examples like the game that "helps cure cancer," or other experimental and scientifically funded games.

It always feels like justifying a Playboy subscription with the articles.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:10PM tylerh1701 said

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"Well now you've done it McGonical, Billy's DEAD! They slit him from ear to ear"

"HEY, I'm trying to eat my lunch here!"

I kno i have spelling of the name and everything wrong, and its not on topic, but her name reminded me of the Simpsons character.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:29PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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SO why i'm still afraid of talking to people that i don't know? =)

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:23PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

You must not be playing games about outgoing enough characters.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:32PM BrokenTriforce said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

There's plenty of video game heroes who have never said a single word throughout their entire career.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2011 5:22PM mcnichoj said

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@DokiDokiBawanga
Judging by your avatar, I have to assuem you play a lot of JRPGs, now you can't expect a group of varied miscreants to fall out of the sky for you to form a group that will undergo many trials that will test your friendship in a very long and memorable journey to take down the bad guys ruling Russia.

I put Russia because I know your Russian. istalku
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Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:39PM 01 said

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So basically from the comments we shouldn't listen to her because she's a women. Way to stay classy and break the stereotypes gamers.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:45PM Beanpie01 said

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I think ill buy her book.

but man, i can already hear the creatures in fox news brooding when seeing this.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 9:51PM jameshauler said

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seriously, gamers always complain that nobody defends video games in the public eye. colbert makes fun of them. she defends them. then everyone says shes doing it wrong?... ay-yi-yi.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:36PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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She has a really goofy outfit on.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:50PM TheBatman4141 said

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Defending games and praising their good qualities is an admirable thing to do, but she comes off as a video game fanatic. It was like watching a bad infomercial. Games can cure cancer! Games can make you a better person! And that's not all, they can julienne your fries while you sleep! The whole thing was a little embarrassing. Colbert is still the man though.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 10:51PM Psychoplasm said

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@Zoot Suit Jedi Grammar Hammer En

gamers: changing the world one word at a time.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 11:04PM bensmith91 said

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All the games she mentioned in her TED speech, which I think is an abstract of sorts of her book, are all ARGs, at least when she refers to games that are actually helping (like Evoke). I think she makes a bit of an unfounded jump when she apparently links those to games like WoW.

Posted: Feb 4th 2011 11:44PM johnny40000 said

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is there a Canadian link of this video any where?

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 12:51AM SaltCube64 said

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People are raping babies because they think it can cure aids in africa when they aren't busy starving to death. At least some chick is sending them videogames.

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 5:03AM Rubert said

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Everything Bad Is Good For You is a much better book that's written about the same exact topic years ago. Her explanations are kind of...off.

I really don't want people to act in the real world how they act in video games. Her perspective on people and video games are much too optimistic and unrealistic.

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 7:47AM ShadowXIII said

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No.

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 9:01AM platypusrme said

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To all of the haters:
I'd like to see you go on national TV and try to explain why games are good for people in the short time she had. I'm sure she presents perfectly good examples in her book. I don't know why expect something more out of random 12 year-olds spamming the comments section..........

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 9:18AM FiXxXeRJL said

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Thats good cause I was in the grocery store yesterday and a lady cut me off in the checkout lane so I hit her in the back and while she was on the ground I teabagged her while screaming "Get owned Bitch!". Well, at least I know now thats perfectly normal.

I can cure cancer? Is there an achievement for that?

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 11:11AM TreeFoxx said

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@FiXxXeRJL No chievos, but I'm pretty sure Folding@home has leaderboards for like, Most Proteins Folded or something...
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 12:42PM FlyingBacon said

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She isn't saying "GTA will make you a better person in real life" I saw her TED talk and she talked about educational games. She was saying something like Roller Coaster Tycoon will teach you how to build a theme park. She never said anything about FPS's. She also said 'epic win' so damn much, it was so damn annoying.

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 3:05PM Scyne said

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@everyone

This is exactly the community that she wants to reach, but cant with your thinking. Although I'm going to get flamed and such I'm going to post Evoke, her last game.

http://www.urgentevoke.com/

There where to many jokes, but her main point is that if you look at life in the same way point or quest based manner and retry when you fail, you will accomplish more.

Posted: Feb 5th 2011 3:09PM Scyne said

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@Scyne

Let me correct my self, I dont mean that your thinking is WRONG either. Just that games are designed for escapism, not to look at the real world.

If they get pointed at real world problems, we could crowd source a taskforce to fix it.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2011 4:29PM s256 said

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I'm reading her book.
Her ideas have INCREDIBLE potential and I think people need to open their minds to the possibilities that she envisions here.

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