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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:13PM Drakkenfyre said

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Your avatar and that pic matches well.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:29PM Air King said

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@Gaddes
Steam is free :)
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:13PM Neptune said

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Ability to set up different resolutions for your screens on Steam, and I am happy.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:19PM Courtney said

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My media PC has been slowly being used less and less. As the PS3 and 360 have gotten better at being media servers, I need the PC less. Plus, the A/V receiver I added last year has a nice suite of networking features, meaning I don't even need to turn on a console for most of any of my music streaming, plus it is already configured to connect to the internet and use a handful of online services.

Between network ready TVs, consoles, cable boxes and A/V receivers, it just seems like the HTPC may have been a short lived stop gap before the rest of our gadgetry caught up.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:19PM Prince David said

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What exactly do they mean by this? This would be great for me because I keep my desktop hooked up to my TV, does this mean there wouldn't be some kind of resolution changing when I am using this? one of the most annoying parts of my TV is the resolution change, it forces me to swap between input modes.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 5:16PM kojo87 said

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@Prince David
i am also wondering what this means. in a perfect world it would mean you could sling Steam from your PC to a DLNA TV allowing you to play Steam games on your TV while your PC is in another room. probably not enough bandwidth on your local network to do this though. even if it only means optimized UI for connecting your PC to your TV via HDMI, its worth having.

i can has HD Peggle with 7.1 surround sound?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:19PM sigma8 said

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Yes! Finally, I can make my one thousand dollar computer act more like a three hundred dollar console. It's Apple Front Row for Steam. I hope they are accompanying this with some kind of hardware release. I think the biggest problem for many is simply hooking the computer up to the TV.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 6:21PM PointlessPuppies said

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@sigma8 Your ignorance astounds me. This is literally displaying your computer's output to a different display. How does this make it ACT like a console in any way?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 6:51PM sigma8 said

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@PointlessPuppies
By displaying your game on a big screen TV and allowing you to navigate your gaming library via a controller. Or am I mistaken? I don't think I am, since the press release says this: "a new 'big picture' mode of Steam which will offer controller support and navigation designed for television interaction. Big picture mode will enable gamers to enjoy Steam and their library of Steam games on more screens throughout the house."

It is meant to give PS Steam Players a more Xbox360- or PS3-like experience. It is basically "console mode". Or please correct me if I'm mistaken. And like I said, Apple Front Row does this exact thing. It takes your Mac, which is hooked up to a TV, and gives you an uber-simple navigation that works with a remote that has only a dpad, an "enter" button and a "menu" button.

I'm not saying this is bad, I'm just saying they better provide easier ways to hook this up to the TV, because simply adding a "mode" isn't going to magically connect the computer at your desk to your big TV in the living room.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:26PM MasterYogurt said

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With HDMI standard on video cards and ridiculously long cables being cheap on Monoprice, hooking a desktop up to a TV isn't so hard anymore. I imagine this would provide a more controller-driven experience with larger text for TV readability. This could work pretty well, I think, since certain PC games do play better with controllers in the first place. This would pretty much eliminate the need for a $300 console in addition to a PC unless the consoles were getting some excellent exclusives - which between the indie scene and the ubiquity of cross-platform ports doesn't seem to be that pressing.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:30PM Scuffles said

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@MasterYogurt but but but, last guardian
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:48PM sonicspike41 said

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@MasterYogurt

Also Uncharted. I just beat the first one yesterday, and started it again today. Mmm... Uncharted. Can't wait for Uncharted 3 to come out.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 8:43PM melao said

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@MasterYogurt I understand the long HDMI. But what about the LONG USB for the controllers? Bluetooth would suffice? Nope.

I have thought of doing this type of thing for months. But what about the HDMI or USB signal amplifiers/repeaters? It is not particularly cheap, actually it could cost more than a console.

Right now there is no elegant solution that I know of to use the PC from across the room which is not expensive.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:29PM Scuffles said

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I think Steam is officially the Amazon of digital distribution..... and I hate digital distro.

This is where I make some joke about Steam sinking Onlives battle ship, right? Of course with steam I can't use my TRS-80 and a Darkfiber connection to play games I could just play on the PS3.

Umm where was I, oh yeah, GO STEAM!

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:55PM sonicspike41 said

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@Scuffles

So you can't use Steam with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80 ?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 5:59PM Drakkenfyre said

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And with OnLive, if the service ever folds, you lose everything.

All of your retail-priced games.

Your $15 a month subscription fee.

You will be left with nothing. Except maybe the miniconsole, if you bought it.

Compared to Steam, where you can tweak your games, turn the details up, host your own games, download and install mods, and if the service ever dies, Valve has said they will release patches for all of their games to remove the Steam requirement, and other developers are free to do so, too.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 6:31PM PointlessPuppies said

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@Drakkenfyre They god rid of the $15 subscription a LONG time ago, buddy.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 7:17PM sigma8 said

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@Drakkenfyre Actually, if Steam folds, their EULA is quite clear that there are no guarantees, and that they are not obligated to provide non-DRM'ed versions of the games you bought. That would probably largely be up to the devs and publishers. Valve's hands will mostly be tied on an issue like that. The only games they could feasibly do that for would be their own, and if they were ever going out of business, their "rights" would likely be for sale, meaning they may not even be allowed to unDRM their own stuff.

My guess is that most of your games will go "poof", just like with OnLive. It's all very doomsday-scenario though. In all likelihood, Steam will be around at least a decade or two, and will you really care about your super old games by then? If you are a collector, who would care about that sort of thing, I would avoid Steam. Use GoG.com or seek out the devs that provide non-DRM versions.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:31PM PlagueDoctor357 said

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Steam on PS3! Pumped!

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:36PM Rollins said

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Well, something needs to push couch gaming forwards (technologically speaking). Lord knows the 360 and PS3 and Wii aren't. If this takes off, I'll gladly put some money into a PC that will deliver truly amazing graphics on my 1080P HDTV.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:42PM Tradio said

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Steam will probably introduce a game streaming service just like On-Live

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:14PM AndrewNeo said

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@Tradio As long as it included all the games I already paid for (which, given my library size, is keeping me from bothering with OnLive), I'd totally pay for it.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:53PM MEGATOOL said

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You know it's weird, but I think that I've been able to do this for years with these things called "consoles". Valve should look into it. Also, I have a PC connected to my TV and have been able to play PC games on it without Steam. I don't know. I guess Valve reinvented the wheel.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:20PM wcarnation said

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@MEGATOOL Consoles? You mean those fisher price looking things that play Brown Color Shooting Games 55: Revenge of America?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 7:11PM PointlessPuppies said

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@MEGATOOL Consoles? Those things that can't even output in-game graphics higher than 720p 99% of the time and can't even push a steady 30 FPS most of the time? Oh yeah, Valve should TOTALLY look into downgrading hardware.

Fact of the matter is, I'd welcome this addition with open arms. My PC (which DESTROYS what my 360 and PS3 can do graphically) is across the house, meaning I have to haul it out to the living room to hook it up if I want to play it there. If Valve can solve that problem with an external streaming peripheral that can output at 1080p, it'll be a great treat and will bring me one step closer to pure PC gaming.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 2:54PM blah604 said

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yeah, just shove steam on ps3 nao :P

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:21PM FriedConsole said

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I wouldn't be surprised if allow OEMs to make a Steam console. It would be just a PC that ran a interface over Windows that would allow you to control everything without a mouse and keyboard. I wouldn't mind hooking up a PC to my TV for some gaming but I am not going to control with a keyboard and mouse.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:36PM MintagedVortex said

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My new GPU has an HDMI output...

*air-punch*

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:53PM Freddie Mercury said

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@MintagedVortex

What did the air ever do to you?

...jerk...
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 5:04PM bshido said

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@MintagedVortex outward or upward, shoryuken style?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 3:41PM Ospov said

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The PS3 and Steam should make babies.

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 4:03PM Trogdorwhore said

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@Ospov Steamstation?
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 4:05PM MLS said

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I already have a cord that connects my mac to my TV. And I can already play L4D2 and Portal with a wired 360 controller; although it is a dodgy connection that often drops.

Aside from hopefully more reliable compatibility, how is this new thing any different? I'm not being cynical, just curious. Will this be some kind of box & controller set up you'll have to buy, like OnLive?

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 7:13PM PointlessPuppies said

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@MLS At the very least, it looks like they're adding a separate Steam interface for easier viewing on a TV/input with a controller. In terms of actually streaming I really hope they release some (relatively inexpensive) peripheral to stream the computer's output to the TV.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 4:10PM 2late2die said

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Does that mean consoles are dead?
just asking :D

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 4:39PM txphisher said

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@2late2die We can only hope. Once people see games rendered at a true 1080p with 4x+ AA they won't be able to go back.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 5:03PM bshido said

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@txphisher once people see how much itll cost them for a rig capable of such things, theyll want consoles back.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 6:02PM Drakkenfyre said

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@bshido

You realize that 1080 is actually mid-level when it comes to pc game resolution, right?

Outputting a modern game to a 1080p TV isn't as taxing on the hardware as running it at most monitor's max.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 7:14PM PointlessPuppies said

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@bshido More like "once people see how much it'll cost them for a rig capable of such things, they'll realize how cheap it actually is and will stop talking out of their asses".
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Posted: Mar 1st 2011 10:37AM bshido said

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@Drakkenfyre 1080p, 4xaa isnt easily done at a good frame rate. Add in the startup cost of the pc, plus future upgrade costs, and it ain't much different than console upgrades, which will still see the same high quality releases.
Some pc gamers are such snobs because they're pc gamers.
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Posted: Mar 1st 2011 10:42AM bshido said

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@PointlessPuppies please show me a build that can play modern games , as well as games that will come out in the next few years (to match upgrade pattern of consoles), that can do 1080p and 4xAA at 60fps.

The great thing that will keep consoles forever alive is no tech knowledge needed. No need to learn how to build a pc (yes, i know its easy, but a lot of people are intimidated by it).

Talking out of my ass? Hardly.
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Posted: Feb 28th 2011 4:57PM heroftime said

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i'm exited and i don't even have any idea of what this is

i guess this is like that being a fanboy

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 5:03PM bshido said

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this will work great with my htpc

Posted: Feb 28th 2011 7:17PM (Unverified) said

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Wow this is great news I might actually be able to read the text now :)

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