Sony claims George 'Geohot' Hotz is avoiding trial in South America

@mywhitenoise You forgot the third option, yourself.

@mywhitenoise The answer is both. Sony for suing in the first place, they have somewhat some grounds but they're going after one person; however this is just to set an example.

Now the followers are because as you said, they are following the company, but why shouldn't they? Of course Sony wouldn't do the same, hell the only reason they know we exist is because one faithful day our details popped up in their database. They know us as consumers, not as people, and that is why your argument is out of context.

Now I move my point onto you, your claim; Christianity, Buddhism, hell The Church of Google. Simply take your statement and replace it with either of them, it applies, but people still follow the religion. All this guy was doing was voicing his opinion, he didn't need to be critiqued. To be honest, I didn't have to write this, but what do I care, I love it!

@Mr Esc is the namesarcasm is my

At least I can sleep soundly without giving a shit whether Sony sues Hotz or not. Keep fighting the good fight, freedom fighters!

@mywhitenoise

You know what I hate, whitenoise? Low lifes like you who side with people who destroy a perfectly good, secure gaming system that we all paid for to use responsibly, for personal gain.

So what if a company is right for once? Is it rare to side with a corporation? Yes. Does that mean they're always wrong? NO.

@Shockwave
Why should I care either way? People who are going to pirate, are GOING to pirate...there's nothing you can do to stop that.
I'm willing to bet I own more PS3 games (both physical, and digital) than you and most people commenting on this article, doesn't mean I'm going to go down on my knees and suck Sonys balls because some dude hacked HIS own console.

@Shockwave

you are correct. Sony has done nothing but provide me with countless of hours of fun for a reasonable price.

Some people act like hacking this was some sort of advancement for civil rights, when in reality all it did was mess up something that everyone liked.

If George Hotz wanted to keep other OS he shouldn't have agreed to download the update that removed it

@mywhitenoise

will you act the same way when a PSN virus bricks your PS3?

@mywhitenoise

Ya dude, it's not like the company is hunting down little guys ala RIAA and it's Wheels on the Bus mishap. This is a company that is RIGHTFULLY bringing to justice for destroying their product's health. He is a worm.

I realize this is completely out of your scope of imagining, but try just for a moment to imagine that you yourself have something to offer the world at one point. Now imagine this idea, physical or IP, is so successful that you end up forming a small company to handle the demand. That small company becomes a large company, then a corporation supplying millions of people with a product they enjoy with their friends and family. Now imagine some little prick comes along and does something that potentially (if left unchecked) could lead to massive profit loss, a loss in shareholder's belief in your company, and at the end of the day ends up costing your company employee jobs and removes the possibility of expanding or catering to your audience until it's handled. Sony went through and dealt with this on the PSP, they shouldn't have to deal with it again on the PS3. All because this guy had too much freetime and some bullshit idea that your product doesn't do what he wants it to do so he has the right to change it for the world. Instead of just like... not buying your product, he decided to form it into something that's free and open for all.

I know, it's entirely difficult for you to understand that hard working individuals are paying the price at Sony because one little asshole wanted to ruin your company's product. All so you can get your "free gamez!" because you rather spend your time bitching on the internet and playing games instead of working and earning money to buy things like the rest of us who support the industry you shit on daily. Prick.

@eat it Maybe Sony should have had some network security instead of trying to rely on the console's to keep people safe. It's like using a fly swatter on a bee's nest.

@Enigma7ic doesnt george hotz know this is just going to make things worse for him, if he co-operated he may have stood a chance to win this thing... but im sure when the court case does happen that the courts will take this into consideration when giving out a verdict

@mywhitenoise

Forget them, they are all idiots. Same type of people who would side with BP because thier cars run on gas, so they'll forgive the crap they do to the world and side with them if some blows up one rig with no casualties just to make a point about evil greedy corps.

@mywhitenoise

Why can't you get it through to your pea-brain that PIRACY ERODES INDUSTRIES and if it were to become too widespread, no developer will make games for a system where the users can just STEAL their product.

Developers aren't in the business of gratifying your every desire, you twit. They're in it to be profitable and prosper as a business.

As a game developer and a victim of piracy , I spit on you and all filthy pirates. By the way, you can stop repeating how you own so many games because NO ONE CARES.

@eat it

So did Geohotz stop your countless hours of fun? How did he do that? Explain please.

@Ellimem

Mistakes were made and its been proven no console is 100% secure, was silly on Sony's part to leave that coding unattended, but what's done is done. Doesn't give mister hotz here or his coding friends the right to showcase to everyone how to do the exact same thing. Theres no point talking about how anti piracy you are, when you open the door for pirates to follow you in.

I'm all for people doing what they want with thier products in th privacy of thier own home, if I should decide to smash my PS3, that's my choice, but theres comes a point where you step across the line.

As much as I admire Hotz's skills and wish I had them, I also think he deserves everything he gets.

@Punkrawk Bbob

I applaud you, sir, and approve of this post. Thank you!

@monkey with glasses

That is quite possibly, the most utterly ridiculous fail of an analogy I've ever heard.

If anything, the people siding with Sony are the people who would side against BP. You've got it all ass backwards.

If you think of the PS3 as an environment, albeit a virtual one, Hotz would clearly be playing the part of the Deepwater Horizon, and his hack would most definitely be the explosion that released several billion barrels of filth and toxins into the environment, screwing it up for everyone.

Incidentally, this would make you and all of the pathetic apologist cheaters like yourself BP, repeatedly trying to downplay the gravity of the situation while sitting around with your thumbs firmly lodged in your collective assholes for weeks on end taking absolutely no responsibility for the situation.

See? Now your analogy actually makes sense. Have a nice day.

@Punkrawk Bbob
That's a pretty long rant in support of a company who seemingly has no recourse against the exploits of a teenage punk. If that's the case, that's pretty bad planning on Sony's part. Sony should focus its money fixing the hole and lowering its costs and increasing its revenues rather than on a fruitless legal campaign to put the genie back into the bottle. At best, Geohotz is some kind of a hippy digital rights crusader. At worst, he's a troll with hacking skillz. Hacker or not, you don't feed the trolls.

@GentlemanWrath

Tell me how one of the most piarted game last year was the one to sell the most. Yeah feel bad for them they lost so much, I mean sometimes billions of dollars is not enought, you know.

@monkey with glasses

Well its only thanks to the genuine people buying the game that that is possible :/

Yeah, the extent of piracy can be exaggerated, but that doesn't change the fact that it still happens.

You'll probably find that pirates only bought the real COD:BO because they wanted multiplayer, if that's the case, its a sad world that we have to resort to online capabilities in order to prevent pirates pirating.

@eat it not like anyone really has a choice,,, updating is necessary if you want continued connection with psn

@Apakal

Nope. It's like he saying "guy we can get what we want without having to bend over to these greedy, never have enought, corps." and bp like guys is his fault gas prices sore. I your last dollar thatpiracy is not the reason consumers get f@#% by corparations.

@monkey with glasses

*bet*

@sigma8

Ya, that's an awesome idea. Let the hackers of the world know your open for business and to run rampant on you. Lets see how well that works. Oh wait, Sony already did. Lets ask the PSP how that strategy worked out for them.

"PSP, how are you doin' little fellah?"
PSP: "it hurts... so bad... please, feed me some games."
"Sorry, no can do buddy. The third parties left town because your hardware is insecure and can run pirated software without the need of any additional hardware."
PSP: "...but I have the better graphics... and hardcore audiences love me for not pushing shovelware on them..."
"So sorry PSP. Maybe next time. Here, have some nice PSN Minis to keep you alive just enough to satisfy fans until the NGP comes out."
PSP: *whimpers*

@Enigma7ic

Sony should just give GeoHot a job.Everyone is on GeoHot ,but their also other hackers can do this without being detected.Then what?

@monkey with glasses

The monetary success or failure of a product does not dictate whether you have the right to steal it.

It's called principles, and obviously, you have none. I don't care if the best selling game made ten trillion dollars. That doesn't give pirates the right to steal it. Stop trying to legitimize your scummy criminal activity by telling yourself they deserve it because they're successful. Your stupidity offends me as a video game developer and a gentleman.

Also, please learn to type coherently.

@southernpredator

And gain what from having Geohot on side? There will always be a hacker for a hacker, even if they hired Geohot, there will be another Geohot to take his place.

Further still, who said Geohot wanted to be hired? He gets a kick out of cracking, it isn't proffessional to have a member of your staff cracking other companies hardware and software. :/

@Punkrawk Bbob

Once again, I applaud your post. Thank you for showing the morons here what happens when piracy runs rampant on a system.

@GentlemanWrath

I agreewith everything you and Punkrawk have said in regards to piracy. However, I have to say you are starting to sound a little pompass. You don't have to say you are a game developer at the end of every comment or lower yourself to the trolls level by hurling insults. Stay classy because your better than that.

@Punkrawk Bbob
Well that's a big ol sack of bullshit. Nintendo DS. It is undeniably easier to pirate DS games than PSP, and yet there are tons of great games for the system, and more continue to come out.

What I want to know is what's up with all the commenters getting so defensive over this like it matters? Are you all sent from Sony? Are you that idiotic and oblivious that EVERY CURRENT CONSOLE has already been hacked and able to play pirated games? Why does PS3 finally getting to that step get your panties in a bunch?

Lastly, also keep in mind not everyone jailbreaks to pirate. My iPhone is jailbroken, and I haven't pirated a single thing with it. I only did it to change themes and download different 3rd party apps. Not everyone with a hackable device is running around twirling their mustaches thinking of their next dastardly plan to take down companies.

@mywhitenoise

Are you his lover or something? Why do you care so much about him? You sound like you're his perverted stalker. Who cares if it's Sony, Toshiba or Google, he modified it and he spread it out for all to use, he's a plank, and you are too if you think he's in the right.

Thank god you're not reading or writing any more comments, we lose a few braincells reading the nonsense you keep posting.

@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell

I appreciate your comment. The only reason I reiterate that I make games is to hopefully help some people here understand that companies are made of real people, with lives and bills to pay and families to feed. It's extremely hard to make one's living as an artist in just about any medium, and that difficulty is increased significantly when your profits are deeply cut into by the theft and subsequent free distribution of your product.

Piracy hurts those individuals as it hurt me in the past. I'm not in any way, shape or form trying to say I'm better than anyone else, I'm just trying to put a human face (or voice, or post, in this case) on the matter where the supporters of piracy seem to think it's them against a huge, faceless evil corporation.

Even if I thought Sony was an evil corporation, I'd STILL support them in this because ultimately, it's the smaller third party developers who will be most hurt by the situation, not Sony. We have to remember to make that distinction here. I hope that makes it clearer.

@CardboardDoom

1st of all, I don't think it matters much whether it's Sony or not, its annoying when you pay for something and other get it for free, you used a superb example, jailbroken iPhone.

Would it matter if your iPhone wasn't jailbroken? Are the thrid parties that crucial to you that you HAD to jailbreak it in order to get those? While you may not have jailbroken it to get free games, I know quite a few people who own one who did and you could tell us you aren't getting games free, we can't prove it, but theres nothing stopping you, the temptation is already there, considering you've already jailbroken it. Apart from your inner guilt, is there really any reason why you would bother buying angry bird games when you can get them free? Like you said, you've jailbroken it, if you went through that trouble, why not just go the whole way like the others who jailbroke thiers?

@Teus

"not like anyone really has a choice,,, updating is necessary if you want continued connection with psn "

actually everyone had a choice. and he decided that he wanted to keep on gaming on PSN instead of keeping other OS. we all had the choice.

hack it all you want, but keep it offline. don't compromise the security of the network that we all enjoy and game on.

@GentlemanWrath

Sorry but greedy people deserves to get rob. You're whats wrong with the world. Have you ever read "Germs, guns and steel?" Too much poor people dying while greedy bastard gets fat. I'm sure that suit you just fine.

@Spunky Monkey 190906

"Sony should just give GeoHot a job."

Translation: I was being Sarcastic,duh.

Of course GeoHot do it for 92% pleasure,my point is Sony will not win this.

Sony's message won't work.

@Enigma7ic I remember at the beginning of this mess, people defending geoidiot were voted up, and people rightfully saying that he should get sued to hell were voted down. Nice to see that the general opinion has swinged the right way, and now geohot is not treated anymore as some kind of noble robin hood, but as the shady thief he really is.

@southernpredator

Fact: Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet unless you point it out

@Monkey with glasses

Are you serious? Money makes the world go round, hate it or love it, there are very few humans that aren't greedy, none the less, piracy isn't just cheating the big corp, its cheating the game developers who work hard to make that game, and the other people who work hard to pay for that game.

Your arguement has no structure.

Basically you're saying its okay to mug someone, because they were being greedy, or rob a shop because they were being greedy, or steal from your own parents, because they want to have more disposable income to provide you with a better life.

@Aguiluz
Hacking didn't kill the DS, or Wii (easily the easiest to hack).

Anyway
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/geohot-flees-south-america-83925/

@monkey with glasses

You can step down off your little pedestal now. You don't even realize the hypocrisy you're spewing.

And trust me, when you invent a way to equitably distribute food to the several billion people starving in the world, get each and every man, woman, and child clean drinking water, provide affordable quality education to everyone in the world, and provide them access to current, affordable medicine, I'll be more than willing to throw all the money I have at your feet.

Until then, shut up. Reading one little book doesn't make you an expert.

@mywhitenoise

Easily the easiest to hack, but also purchased by the largest majority of people who don't care, know how, or even want to hack it.

I'm sure my 8 year old cousin would have a blast if he hacked his DS. Or he could keep playing whatever crap shovelware game he's playing this week and not give a crap.

Think about it. Saying it more than once doesn't bring it any closer to actually supporting your argument.

@Mr Esc is the namesarcasm is my

Here here! I second the motion that monkey with glasses should "eat a johnson and piss off."

@Apakal

Not to mention my 6 year old sister as well as her little friends.

Oh I can just imagine it now, my little sister wanting to hack her DS so she can get free games. If that DS ever got hacked, its because I hacked it, I wouldn't go through the trouble of hacking a console unless it was to benefit my cause.

Nevermind all the practical applications of running homebrew software. It can enable piracy, and that's all anyone ever cares about.

Y'know, if Sony didn't take the "Other OS" function out of the PS3, we probably wouldn't have this problem.

@Aguiluz

The PSP was killed by more than hacking. If hacking alone could kill off a platform, then the DS and the Wii would be dead.

@Kira Blaize
The removal of OtherOS was GeoHot's fault to begin with. I cite this as proof: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/26/ps3-hacked-geohot-releases-coveted-ps3-exploit/

@Styli

He's really child actor Fred Savage.

@Styli he's really a horse.