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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:09PM Trilancer said

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Exactly, and Nintendo are speeding towards this same BS by not allowing consumers to use Nintendo Point cards on their 3DS.

You think people who didn't trust SONY with their CCs will so with Ninty?

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:14PM Epoque said

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@Trilancer 3DS has new points cards, you don't need to use your CC.

Honestly, the only people upset about this are nutters who stockpile point cards.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:04PM Trilancer said

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@Epoque

Stockpile no, I wouldnt call owning 2-3 stockpiling.

And, if you notice all the other comments here, they are all rushing to buy point cards for PSN.

It was either buy 4 at the time or risk the PCards shortage in 2008. Nintendo should at least set a deadline to redeem them at the 3DS store.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 10:00PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Trilancer

Owning 2-3 is stock pilling.

The whole point on them is to buy them so that you can redeem them to buy content of the marketplace, not buy them so they sit around in your house.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 4:21PM Softserve said

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@Trilancer Even if I agreed that was stockpiling, let's say I was given three cards as a present. At some point it's ridiculous of a company telling me that this form of money isn't equally valid on another one of their products. There's really no defense for it. There is absolutely nothing about the 3DS that makes it require its own card system.

Apple doesn't make me buy special iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch cards. PSN doesn't make me buy special cards for videos, music, PS3 or PSP.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:09PM Gaddes said

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I'm not going to stop using PSN for buying things, however from this point on I'm only going to do that through the PSN prepaid cards... I'm never using my credit cards with them again.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:20PM Shockwave said

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@Gaddes

I had someone make a purchase through my account somehow a few weeks ago. I took my CC info off just as a precaution, and decided to just use PSN cards to buy my games. Then this happened.. talk about freakin luck that I didn't have my CC info on my account anymore.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:39PM HardBoiled2009 said

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@Gaddes

I second Gaddes, I'll just be going out for PSN Cards now, it's a damn shame what happened so when it's up I'll take off the CC and just Buy PSN Cards from here on out.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:40PM Dashx747 said

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@Gaddes

I also find pre-paid cards to be a lot safer, but where I live they have to be imported, which comes at a very hefty price (I'm talking about double/triple the price).

Buying on-line was a way for me to buy games at normal prices, instead of the absurd price importers charge here. This breach is a huge problem for people here, since I can no longer trust the PSN security system and can't afford imported cards.

For now I'll be focusing my game on PC, buying mostly through Steam. If hackers manage to get into it too, hell, I'll play with my Neo Geo or something, then.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:02PM The Aquacharger said

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@Gaddes
I'm just going to use Amazon's PSN service.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:30PM jsx said

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You are not safe. With or without a credit card number, they have all your personal information and can open a new one for you.

This nonsense about purchasing paranoia is just the smokescreen of ignorance of the real danger.

There's really nothing you can do about this except get a credit report in a month or so and see if there's any debt on there you don't recognize. I've had friends get their identity stolen before, it's definitely a real problem.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:42PM ToTheMoon said

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@jsx

So let me get this straight, you have the most basic of info potentially stolen and people are freaking out. Yet the Top 10 apps on Facebook were caught selling ALL the same personal info (not sure about the CC) plus all your social contacts and habits and that didn't/doesn't bother you?

I get so confused by people.. One day they are okay with sharing all their personal info and the next they are worried about identify theft. If it was really a concern for you, you should have known better. It's no longer 2002 people... Protecting yourself online should be automatic for you by now or you shouldn't even care... ignorance at this point in time is a terrible argument.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:56PM cushenstein said

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@jsx

"they have all your personal information and can open a new one for you."

Really? Sony somehow obtained my social security number without my knowledge and stored it on their servers? If all you needed was your basic info to open a new credit card then no one would be safe, PSN user or not.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 3:00PM Gaddes said

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@cushenstein

I thought this originally too, but unfortunately thanks to the greed of banks like BofA, you don't necessarily need a social security card anymore to open a new credit card. According to something I read it had something to do with wanting to "expand into the hispanic market" :\

Regardless, it's not the end of the world guys, it's simple. Use PSN cards from now on, and just monitor your credit card online now and then, which you should be doing anyways. A credit report maybe a month from now isn't a bad idea either. Luckily, we live in an environment today where it's very easy for banks and credit card companies to overturn/reverse any fraudulent charges... this happened to a friend of mine over the weekend whose card was randomly used by some idiot to make 3 Xbox Live accounts.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 3:31PM Victoryismine52 said

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@Gaddes
I normally used the prepaid cards before so that shouldn't change. But I may end up slightly more likely to use my CC info online once it's back up.... Ok your giving me a weird look let me explain. Because of this breach sony is having to Completely restructure their network system and they are doing so with the help of outside security firms. I have no doubt that once the system is back up it will be much more secure than it was before. Oh and the Pixel Junks guys need not worry I was planning on picking up Shooter 2 when I finished with portal 2. So I'll send them some revenue when the stores back up
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 10:19PM Gaddes said

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@Gaddes

Why the hell was I downvoted for trying to tell people you don't have to have a SSN to get a credit card?
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 6:42AM Gaddes said

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@Bielzer

A simple google search about not needing SSN for opening credit cards would confirm to people what I'm trying to say, but unfortunately it seems that people would rather be blissfully ignorant of this fact, perhaps that way they feel more secure. :\
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:10PM Stevetrop Man of Mystery said

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This is a situation that I think the online gaming community has always feared happening. At such an insane level the ripples will be felt for some time now.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:11PM LordPoncho said

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Bought Mortal Kombat to play online, haven't been able to play online yet. Somewhat upsetting and disappointing.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:19PM baddates77 said

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@LordPoncho It's still an excellent game though. We'll get to play online eventually.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:31PM baby sea tuna said

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@baddates77

I went to get it yesterday and had both the 360 and PS3 versions in my hand and ended up sacrificing being able to play as Kratos for being able to play online.

I'm still a little bummed because I bet Kratos is awesome.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:46PM baddates77 said

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@baby sea tuna Kratos is actually pretty cool in the game. The bigger point for me though was that I just don't care for the d-pad on the 360 controller. I suppose that I could just get an arcade stick for the 360, but I don't really want one of those things taking up space in my tiny apartment.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:07PM baby sea tuna said

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@baddates77

I thought about that too, but I have one of the newer controllers with the raised d-pad and it works pretty well.

But I can only imagine how awesome Kratos' fatalities are.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 9:21PM Weiji said

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@baby sea tuna Kratos is banned from tourneys anyway. He's not really that great either.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:17PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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It's not really going to change anything with me. However, I am going to remove my CC after each purchase or perhaps all together and migrate to points cards. I haven't really lost and trust or loyalty to them but a lot of that will depend on how I'm compensated for the ordeal.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:50PM Uncle Jesse said

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@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell

But you are a huge supporter of Sony, no? It's the more 'casual' PS3 owner that might be more wary of using the network after this. I will just use prepaid cards from here on out, as others have mentioned, and be sure to never have my credit card information stored. I can understand a lot of people feeling like they might just not want to even touch it again though.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:42PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Uncle Jesse

I can only speak to my own intentions. As I said, a lot will depend on my compensation. Getting a new debit card cost me $10 and I'm out a week (so far) of my DC Universe subscription. So, I want to see what bones I get thrown my way before I decide how much my confidence in then has deteriorated.

Honestly, I think this is going to blow over assuming they get the network back up for online soon. There is a lot of squawking and noise being made but I don't see it having a major impact on even casual users and thier purchasing habits. You have a vocal minority of people online that are upset but a huge amount of users either haven't noticed or don't care.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:46PM kentuckyfried said

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@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell

Yeah, I was going to do the same...strip out and not leave the CC info as much as possible.

It's a hassle unless they can prove to me that they can manage the information more securely.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 3:52PM Uncle Jesse said

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@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell

I was wondering about DC Universe players. That sucks and I would really hope that they compensate you for an equal amount of time that you weren't able to access the game, at the very least.

Like the entertainment industry, I too think that once the servers are back up and everything is confirmed to be secure, it will blow over and people will forget about it all. I think a lot of noise is coming from two different camps. People either don't really know what's actually going on and just think that their credit card info has been leaked and then there are those complaining just for the sake of it, or just to crap on Sony for something.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:17PM ceetheman said

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Lost sales? Yes! 5% to 10%? No, probably more in the coming weeks, but around 20% would be a good estimate. Those numbers are way too optimistic.

Sony will have to work REALLY hard to regain the players trust. Also, if they released information related to the intrusive hacker, I'm pretty sure that irrated gamers would gladly find a way to express they views... with baseball bats!

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:33PM ironneko said

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@ceetheman

Not that I'm complaining... but PSN+ for a month for all users would go a long way towards keeping users hooked.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:49PM ytilanigiroon said

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@ceetheman

I think Sony is underestimating impulse buys, however; you can nearly as easily buy PSN cards off Amazon via "download" ( http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_355738082_5?ie=UTF8&node=468642&hidden-keywords=B004RMK4BC|B004RMK4P8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=0W92M515PQTMFVS364C8&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1292263502&pf_rd_i=psn ) and you get e-mailed the code just about as soon as you proceed to checkout, so maybe it won't be as big of a drop-off as I would presume...

Also:
"Speaking to Develop, a UK-based developer, wishing to remain anonymous"

I guess Develop didn't wish hard enough.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:53PM ytilanigiroon said

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@ytilanigiroon

derp.
Someone was speaking to the Develop blog... Didn't check the link and the verbiage was odd. Down-rank at will.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:19PM gordeaux said

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I almost never play online, and my Netflix still works, so this is not a big loss for me. It would suck if my info got stolen, but I don't know the last time I updated it anyway. I'm pretty sure that card is expired.... I would like to get online to play some MK though.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:21PM baddates77 said

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@gordeaux Netflix is still working through the Playstation? I hadn't actually had a chance to try it out yet but just sort of assumed that it wouldn't work. It seems like I tried using it before when PSN was down for some maintenance or something and Netflix wouldn't work then.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:47PM gordeaux said

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@baddates77 yeah it totally works. It'll ask you to sign in, and just try and sign in. after it fails it'll still go to your queues and stuff, and ask you again. try and after it fails to sign in it'll still just work normally.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:45PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@gordeaux

Yup. Netflix works fine.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:19PM ToKeN2k6 said

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I'm not worried about them using the account I had stored on there, b/c its my debit card, and good luck with the $2.54 I have in there by the end of every week. I just hope they can't open up fraudulent credit cards under my name. I really hate getting credit reports..(I make my wife do it ;-P)

I'm pretty sure that the day this is back up, all info will be wiped clean, they'll prompt you to re-enter your information. I think that would be best, just purge the system of all the data stored, everyone gets a fresh start (its like Project Mayhem!), they can decide to link a card again and trust Sony, or just go to Best Buy and buy $10, $20, $50 increments..

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:26PM copa said

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@ToKeN2k6

"I'm not worried about them using the account I had stored on there, b/c its my debit card, and good luck with the $2.54 I have in there by the end of every week."

OK, but watch out if you end up having a good week. It's PSN users who have their debit cards linked that are reporting the first wave of fraudulent activity:

http://vgn365.com/2011/04/26/psn-users-reporting-hundred-of-dollars-stolen-from-them/
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:34PM baby sea tuna said

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@copa

Great, so it's not just leet haxxor children, it's actual thieves. Well, at least they don't have my CC #...just all my other personal information.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:48PM baddates77 said

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@copa That's what I had linked to my PSN account. Luckily no unauthorized activity on my account but I still had in canceled last night just to be on the safe side.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:54PM ToKeN2k6 said

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@copa holy sh*t man..I had no idea..
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 2:09PM MLS said

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@copa
Wow, so glad I changed my debit card account last night. I've fallen behind in transferring my paychecks into my savings account, and have a considerable sum in there right now. Checked, and there were no unfamiliar purchases make in the past week. Dodged that one.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 3:15PM echerringtonYAHOOCOM said

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@baddates77

same, I cancel my cc last night also.
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:20PM Assmar said

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This all just stinks so much. Here we were, wondering if we could keep our PSN games when we buy a PS4, but instead we have to worry if we can keep our money in our bank accounts.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:20PM MLC said

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Boy, Sony royally screwed up big time. Hopefully, everything turns out to be better than what it is now. I hope no PSN users got screwed up and I hope the indie devs don't suffer too much with this "Blackout".

I'm not taking up for Sony but crap like this does happen and coulda happen to anybody but Sony is gonna have a lot of heat on themselves for this for a long time. Especially w/ the NGP releasing whenever it will, people will always remember this.

I'm a proud PS3 owner and always will be but from now on, my new address will be"420 Smokers Street".

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:23PM koehler83 said

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@MLC That's my place.
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Posted: Apr 28th 2011 1:11AM Monchis said

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@MLC Hey neighbor! I live at 421!
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Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:20PM Kirkpad said

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I'm quite sure Sony will send out an email when it comes back up reassuring all the customers that the system is ACTUALLY secure for purchases, and give us a token of their gratitude for our patience and continued use of the Playstation Store.

PR Problem solved.

Posted: Apr 27th 2011 1:23PM baby sea tuna said

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@Kirkpad

Well...they'll probably wait a week first.
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