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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:34PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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hmm i stopped playing Vegas when i cleared out clean, plasma rifles shop and then gone to whorehouse to kill some hookers with my newly acquired weapons and got myself trapped by a door i was able to get in but was unable to get out T_T

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:36PM xiLeShadow said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

and this is when the console commands come in handy.

Too bad console commands are enabled in console games. -.-
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:36PM xiLeShadow said

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@xiLeShadow

aren't** enabled. =( typos.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:14PM Pugnaciousturtle said

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@xiLeShadow I think it might be time for old school cheat codes to make a comeback in bethseda games.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:21PM Aerothorn said

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@xiLeShadow

Which is pretty ironic, if you think about it.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:21PM Aerothorn said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

Sounds like karma!
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:44PM JUNG GUNS said

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@DokiDokiBawanga I have gotten stuck behind doors several times. This game is glitchy as a mofo so I just stopped playing it.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 2:22PM Zoth said

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@DokiDokiBawanga Just revert to the save before that. If the Autosave isn't a good place, then it wouldn't hurt to just do the stealing all over again and start from the last actual save.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:35PM xiLeShadow said

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or you know, Microsoft could take the update off and revert back to the previous version.

Have they done this??

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:35PM baby sea tuna said

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Oh lord, a patch to patch a patch? Who's working over there at Bethesda, Xibit?

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:53PM xReece said

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@baby sea tuna

YO DAWG I HERD U LIKE PATCHES...
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:47PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@baby sea tuna Leonardo DiCaprio
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:52PM TaintedKane said

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@baby sea tuna

Christopher Nolan
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:26PM Faceless Troll said

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@TaintedKane We have to go deeper. So we put the deep in your deep ones so you can deeper while you deep.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:45PM original fred said

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@Faceless Troll
Meme overflow. Critical Error. The internet must be rebooted.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:37PM Osmium said

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I personally think it's hilarious that they release patches to fix bugs...but release more bugs in the patches.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:53PM brotherdaz said

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I almost started playing this last night, guess I'll wait

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:38PM deadwr3ckoning said

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Really Bethesda? Fail fail fail

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:39PM jynxycat said

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That's nice for all the people who read blogs like this religiously :P

Good thing that's a small fraction of the gaming populous.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:40PM Dukk420 said

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Damn whorehouses and their trap doors...that's how they get ya'! :-)

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:41PM Hunter2223 said

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I downloaded it yesterday, Stopped all my saved games from loading.

I went into Data storage management and deleted the update (and all others) and was able to load my game and play.

This is the last game I will ever purchase that Obsidian has anything to do with. Fool me twice and all.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:06PM Mrblonde57 said

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@Hunter2223

They did develop KOTOR II and it turned out amazing.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:13PM Frostblade10 said

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@Mrblonde57

That's debatable.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:13PM TheDarkWayne said

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@Mrblonde57 they get a lot of flack for KOTOR 2, undeservedly. It might be justified with FNV and Alpha Protocol, not really sure what the publishing environment was like for those, but they were under extreme pressure from lucasarts with KOTOR. It's truly astounding they were able to make such an incredible game with the hand they were dealt.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:49PM jynxycat said

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@TheDarkWayne Most people were probably pissed at the closure, or lack thereof, in Knights 2.

I mean, they did have a huge portion of the script cut out due to time constraints.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 2:17PM Hunter2223 said

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@jynxycat

Exactly.

KOTOR 2 was similar to Fallout New Vegas in the adding some really neat ellements that make everything kinda cooler, and then short changing the entire game in some other way.
In KOTOR 2 it was the incomprehensible ending. In Fallout NewVegas it's the ludicrous number of bugs at every level.

As a studio they have potential, some good ideas, and add things that make games cooler... but their follow through and completion of a project is miserable.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 9:45PM TheDarkWayne said

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@jynxycat yeah I got that, what I'm saying is with KOTOR 2 at least it wasn't there fault.
@Hunter Maybe that's true with Fallout, but KOTOR 2 did a lot more than just make it kinda a little bit cooler. The writing and the characters was a thousand times deeper, more mature and enthralling, but more important than that, the influence system! That was such an incredible feature that still appalls me that more games don't use it, that was a real game changer there and nobody picked up on it.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:44PM esbeekay said

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I love this game and have defended it left and right but damn Obsidian isn't making it easy. Patching patches...the future of QA

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:53PM Faceless Troll said

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@esbeekay Patching patches is par per course with Sony. The xbox is just playing catchup.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:47PM glibglop said

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For the love of all that is holy, Bethesda. You better get your shit in order for Skyrim.

This happened in Oblivion, Fallout 3, and this as well. It's not like corrupt save games completely ruin the experience or anything.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:47PM Maximo said

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This is just getting ridiculous. Reminds me of what David Jaffe was saying about how games are released unfinished and are fixed with patches. Remember back in the day before patches? They worked or were broken. I like patches but not the way Vegas and many other games have had to fix issues that should have been addressed during the development process.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:37PM jsx said

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Twisted Metal and God of War do not even remotely compare to the depth of a piece of software similar to a Bethesda RPG.

If you want complexity from your software you have to accept occasional failure and save often. Games are no different.

Stop being so arrogant about software design; get a degree and join the team if you think it can be done better.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 2:03PM OnToGloryReturns said

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@jsx

Sorry, dude. There's a difference between a patch or two to fix minor issues and what happened w/FONV. They essentially released a game in Beta form - I've never seen such a myriad of game breaking issues in a AAA title.

The games' conception and systems were brilliant but the execution was a flat out embarassment to Bethesda and Obsidian - especially Obsidian - whose track record is horrendous at this point.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:48PM Prboi said

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This really isn't a break for me. I'm glad I was warned about this before I played again. I still love Fallout & will get the next one when it comes out. People whine too much these days

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:53PM RudyHuxtable said

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Jesus effing Christ. I toyed with the idea of firing this game up and giving it a second chance after the last huge save game corruption bug. Reviews for this game were so great, and I want to like it, but sorry. How do you patch something and then eff up the patch?! Honestly.... Angry Rudy!... 'cause it's only Friday morning and I want it to be Friday night.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:54PM Zertoss said

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Gamebryo is a harsh mistress.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 12:57PM Maximo said

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Where is your sarcasm, joystiq? Um... seems odd

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:05PM Mrblonde57 said

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That is prime developing right there.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:30PM jmood88 said

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@Mrblonde57 minus the myriad of bugs and cut content you mean. I will never buy another game made by Obsidian, they don't take the time to make sure their games work properly, so I won't waste my time and money trying to find a good game beneath the shit on the surface.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:12PM TheDarkWayne said

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Huh, coulda sworn I posted the first comment. I really, really love this game, like 500 hours of love. But dang, it is poison to try and defend and explain why I like it. Poison.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:23PM Urethra Alfredo said

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@TheDarkWayne

Never trust a big butt and a smile.
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:22PM Urethra Alfredo said

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Wow, this is like the time my doctor cured my ear infection by giving me AIDS.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:25PM Fuzunga said

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Yo dawg, I heard you like patches...

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:26PM WigglesPNG said

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wow really? I keep getting "This save will not work cause of DLC progress" (something like that) and I said to myself.....I don't have DLC for this game game saves will still load though *knocks on wood*

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:27PM Desco said

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This is why I STOPPED PLAYING NEW GAMES!! Seriously, you know what I've been playing lately? Civilization IV. (that's 4, not 5) When Civ IV came out, it was probably $50. Each expansion, $30? The standalone Colonization, another $30-50? yeah, you can get Civ IV Complete which has both expansions, Colonization, and every patch ever for $20 now, and you don't need the hottest latest greatest computer to play it.

I'm sure I'll get around to Fallout 3 and all its descendants in a few years. By then all this crap will be ironed out.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:29PM CaptainProtonX said

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Posted: Apr 30th 2011 9:42AM Dhexodus said

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@CaptainProtonX

Do you ever get tanlines in the shape of a hand?
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:34PM CaptainProtonX said

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You are crossing the streams on multiple topics.

This isn't about DLC, the prices, or the demands of the systems.

The frustration here is about crap code being sold at full game prices, receiving patches to alleviate errors but ending up creating NEW errors.

This is the sign of the times, and the customer loses in the end.

Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:35PM CaptainProtonX said

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@CaptainProtonX

Dammit, this was for Desco above me.

Speaking of frustrations, this reply system....
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Posted: Apr 29th 2011 1:52PM JUNG GUNS said

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@CaptainProtonX YUP. With game prices staying relatively flat in the last five years(All AAA games have always been $60 +/- $5) the developers are obviously trying to cut corners because production costs have gone up which has whittled down their profit margin signifcantly. What I don't understand, is how games like Halo and MW are the same price as games like Fallout which have no multiplayer. In less than 3 years we'll have to pay to play online with all AAA games - GUARANTEED!
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