Blizzard Dota still on the way, has undergone 'some massive overhauls'

@aray48
well obviouslly from the promotional image it will be fore starcraft 2 expansions, and world of warcraft : bringing rts back patch

@yoshinatsu Blizzard is internally developing their own official mod to their game while the guy who made the original unofficial mod from Blizzard's game is working with Valve to release an official sequel to his unofficial mod, but not for a Blizzard game. How is that not clear as glass? :p

@radioactivez0r

IceFrog is not the original maker of the Dota map, he's the current and latest in a line of of makers who has worked on the map.

@radioactivez0r

OH GOD MY HEAD.
*brains dribble from ears*

@yoshinatsu
Oh wait... and there's League of Legends as well which is a stand alone DotA clone. Not to sure who made it.

@radioactivez0r

Hilarious.

@Mechazawa Prime I totally Agree, I wont even bother if it lacks diablo characters.

@CaramelZappa

Probably the same way they convinced a bunch of people to buy Left 4 Dead 2 when they already owned L4D1, and it was mostly the same game.

@McDude
So, by making it awesome then?

@CaramelZappa

Engine mods aren't the same as building up a game from scratch.

@Haggard

I thought the addition of melee weapons and couple new infected were good. Still not sure it was awesome enough to warrant another $40-50 investment, though. I think they kinda screwed us there.

@CaramelZappa
Valve has yet to put a price on DOTA2. It could be free for all we know. It could end up being like LoL, free with optional microtransactions. Why do you think Valve was testing the waters with the MannCo. Store? And they have several times said that with DOTA2, they will add a lot of community functionality into the Source Engine.

Src: http://www.dota-two.com/valve-introducing-dynamic-payment-model-for-dota2

@CaramelZappa http://www.dota-two.com/valve-introducing-dynamic-payment-model-for-dota2

@commonperson The issue is that people have played Blizz Dota (myself included) at events such as Blizzcon 2010. And I was worried because the build of it that I played did have a lot of work to be done before it could be compared to either DotA or HoN for gameplay. So hearing this is assuring to me that they didn't just scrap the project. Which was something that I was worried about after the other 3 mods came out and this one wasn't even mentioned.

But I agree it sucks that they don't have release dates but it speaks to how good the company is when people are getting hyped over the smallest details (I just got the details on Heart of the Swarm and am excited for that, but that won't be out till next year). However the reason that we have these super positive feelings towards the games is because they take their time and make a phenomenal game. They put their game through extensive QA and balancing. And yes they don't always get 100% of the bugs or 100% balanced but that's to be expected. They still release products that are much better off than many products that release. I can tell you that my expectation anymore is that the games I buy are not going to work when I try to play them day 1. However Wings of Liberty I loaded up and was playing matches an hour or so later when I stopped my campaign.

@Grimbear13 I understand that, I'd prefer a dev pull back on a product then release it half finished. Valve and Blizzard are worst offenders for just holding off but they also produce the cream of the crop with very few missteps and consistently good product. I think it's the trend of the industry as a whole that bugs me. The entire world of secrecy that's developing up around game developers just can over build hype. But I do see your point. Ah well, I'll still be in line for the games when they come out. :-)

@commonperson

I agree that it's frustrating when game companies seemingly lead us on and tease us with tid bits of the delicious things they're cooking up. However, this isn't the case with just games. Movies have always been marketed around building hype. Lots of entertainment and media does this. It's a paradox of sorts: people today want more and more quicker and quicker and get frustrated when they don't. In the 90's everyone was stoked when a new game came out, regardless of how long it had been teased for. We're just inundated with so many games now. I'm fine with waiting for quality games.

@TRTX
The conspiracy runs deep:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18664_5-annoying-trends-that-make-every-movie-look-same.html