The Joystiq Show - 001: Duke Nukem Forever

@tylercolp Chris, you just spent a quarter century discussing what may or may not be on a vapor ware list in the future for another sites publication... Frankly, who gives a flaming dull shit? You guys were aces! Now it sounds like the podcast equivalent of a fan film. I hereby surrender my Brush With Fame. :(

@The Wicker Man. Oh man, WHEW! Its okay everyone! Hackers have merely done a DDoS attack to the charm on the Joystiq podcast!

@tylercolp

Dont pop that cork until you taste cheese.

@Korova Pamplona

Dont pop that cork until you taste the cheese.

I can say with confidence that this was the most boring joystiq podcast ever made. I like you Chris but without Justin you just aren't very entertaining. I miss the laughs this show used to produce.

@Hoarr

Hey -- my jokey message was truncated!

"It's the Joystiq reboot with Andrew Garfield playing the role of the Amazing Chris-Grant!"

@Hoarr. Good for you kiddo.

@liquidsoap89. Stay at work, do yourself a favor. Pretend I am warning you off the Star Wars prequels.

@Altman be Praised

All I want to know is when are Dave, Richard, and Alexander going to be on the podcast?

I might have to download this show on a case by case basis instead of doing an auto subscribe. Gonna have to skip this week since I don't care about Duke Nukem at all...

@slickie Also, I think it's ridiculous that Joystiq asked us to post comments with our opinion of the new show, then its editor-in-chief Chris Grant tweets that we gamers "fear and loathe change", the audience that enjoyed the original podcast over this one was "very small", and that the old show was broke and needed fixing. ( http://twitter.com/#!/chrisgrant )

@slickie

Sorry but too many went too far with their reviews. We're reviewing who gets the podcast next time and who doesn't based on today's venom.

@RednerGroup I'm glad as a long time reader and fan of this site I am all but called a brat for not liking the new show. Thanks guys.

@TenEightyPeewee

I disagree that other podcasts try to be professional. I listen to some of the IGN and Gamespot podcasts and a lot of the staff on those are just as offbeat and silly as the Joystiq crew are.

It'd be hard to find a podcast where someone tries to take everything seriously. I dislike it when gaming press tries to pretend like they have to be formal and professional. I would think 95% of the people visiting this site don't care about the professional side and just want a bunch of people that play videogames for a living to sit down and openly chat about videogames. Hilarity should ensue.

I honestly don't know what the intended audience is for this podcast format cause it's not the old audience. I'm also very confident this isn't just a reaction to change.

@Lerkero

I understand the other Podcasts may also take a similar note and 'fun/funny' format but the JoyStiq Podcast and the XB360 FCast were simply better than those in my opinion and higher level of charm and wit! Justin and Chris face-palming at a Kinect game or some awful DLC attempt is one example. I love Joystiq because its the only site i feel operates on a level the rest of us gamers do. IGN, Gamespot etc just feels like a bit empty and less personal.

But now it's gone, It's GONE DAMMIT! DAMN YOU SALAZAAARRR!!!

@Gaddes The NPR comparison is on point. I play videogames for fun, and I consume gaming news for fun as well. If I wanted "soulless" I'd be reading Gamespot.

At least there's still Giantbomb.

The real disconnect here is Chris tweeted the site gets about 7 million visitors vs 50k podcast downloaders and this is an attempt to increase that number. I don't think the right approach to getting those 7 million visitors to convert to listeners is by completely abandoning the fun and punny tone of the site.

I listened to something like 10 minutes of interviewing some guy who wrote a joke page on the internet, and thought multiple times, "...why are they still talking?". I made it to the Jon St. John interview where he did his cheesy Nukem voice randomly like a dirty Charles Martinet. I got so bored I gave up on it (Ironically, much like Duke Nukem Forever).

It was wonderful editing, very professional, but it's not what I expected or wanted with a "fun" podcast. I really like you guys, but it was boring. I've unsubscribed. I'm still a site reader though, so I'll keep an eye out and hope you guys give this the New Coke treatment and decide to bring back "Joystiq Classiq". In the meantime, I've still got two hilarious editors to listen to on "My Brother, My Brother & Me", so it's not all bad.

@onan My problem was the roundtable.

Simple defense of I want to be Wolverine not a hobo in regards to regen vs healthpacks.

Fair enough point but no one else can come up with a simple rebuttal of that is a particular take that was old when Duke Nukem Forever was announced. I would HOPE newer gamess have shown how to make that particular game mechanic make sense within a narrative more than my nominal everyman (I'm looking at you Drake) is secretly a mutant. Heck Mass Effect had a reasonable halfway idea with it's Medi-gel being a limited resource, it's gameplay just didn't do enough to stress that.

@cthomer5000 Chris hasn't had energy for years, unless he's talking about Fable.

@Tez

Or Apple.

@D3m0sthenes I assume you do, but out of obligation I have to ask:

Have you tried My Brother, My Brother and Me?

@D3m0sthenes this is rigid, forced, and shit. I could have listened to plenty of other casts for this format. As my itunes review said, I liked the old podcasts cause it felt like I was cutting loose with my nerdy friends talking about games like I had a crush on them. This is a huge disappointment.

@The Wicker Man

My review said similar. It was so good because of the magic between the three of them... it hurts my heart so bad that the magic may not happen again...

Also, yes I love MBMBAM so much. I've been on Joystiq since '05. Everything they touch is magical, except this is seems...

I hope you guys prove me wrong though. Very much so.

@D3m0sthenes. Raik, we had some good times here! Those old podcasts kept the loneliness of a new town, job, and my wife leaving me away. The shows accessibility and humor were bright spots in dark days. One of the few things I looked forward to. Guess I am just a sad sack of doody doo.

@The Wicker Man

I feel you man, those years were pretty tough for me too actually, now life has evened out, and one of the few truly enjoyable things I found during that time are gone.

Mr. Grant seems to think we're terrified of change, when in fact we (and very few others) are their most devout fans through all of the changes in the past. We are only giving our opinions because we care, we don't think this place sucks, other than some of the commenters, we love the wonderful things Joystiq.com has brought us. But, a huge reason I'm still dangling on IS the podcast. I'm an adult, with responsibilities, I don't have all the time in the world to game anymore. The podcast helped me fill in the blanks. I still have it, though it seems to be much less fun.

I do have faith though. Just so far it's been shaken a bit more than I'd like.

@D3m0sthenes Haha thanks Raik, guess I should have double checked Chris' tweet. It says comment if you LIKE the podcast. Oh how silly the unwashed masses can be! :P

@The Wicker Man

Add me on XBL or PSN (or both) and we'll talk about the good ol' days. I do have and play more games on XBL though, just a warning. ;)

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@D3m0sthenes


Hey buddy :)