They say you can't have too much of a good thing, but Bethesda certainly put that to the test with its seemingly unending releases of downloadable content for Fallout 3. Project lead Todd Howard said that the developer has learned its lesson, and those who play the studio's next game, Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, should expect heartier, less frequent updates.
"Right now I can say that we'd like to do less DLC but bigger ones -- you know, more substantial," he told AusGamers. "The Fallout 3 pace that we did was very chaotic. We did a lot of them -- we had two overlapping groups -- and we don't know what we're going to make yet, but we'd like them to be closer to an expansion pack feel."
In short, expect huge horse armor collections this time around, in every size, shape and hue imaginable.
Reader Comments (63)
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:32PM Dance Mofo said
will we have golded dragon armor included?
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:40PM Faceless Troll said
@Dance Mofo It might even give you a stat boost instead of being strictly ornamental.
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Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:33PM byaboy said
so dlc every 2 weeks in steed of every week
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:38PM Fire Walk With Me said
Shivering Isles is still the best DLC I have ever purchased.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:46PM Fire Walk With Me said
@Kalis DLC = DownLoadable Content. I downloaded it on top of Oblivion so it was dlc regardless of what they called it.
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Posted: Jun 29th 2011 5:50PM Sonictheratherquickhedgehog said
@rob47
Dragon Age: Origins Awakening? Did we play the same thing? Awakening was amazing.
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Dragon Age: Origins Awakening? Did we play the same thing? Awakening was amazing.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:41PM Epoque said
So Shivering Isles, Knights of the Nine, Tribunal, Bloodmoon-esque expansions? Meaning to say, keeping with series tradition?
Good.
Good.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:44PM MasterYogurt said
Fallout 3's DLC was excellent but I wouldn't have minded slightly longer development times and slightly beefier content. Fallout 3 was absolutely the right direction for DLC to head and I'm glad to see them embracing substantial expansions. I'd spend ten bucks on a several hour quest that added some new goodies well before I spent a buck fifty on horse armor.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:45PM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said
No. This is unacceptable. I demand 2.49 hats and Horse Armor.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:46PM MarkezJM said
Confidence is high. That they did something on the order of Point Lookout really impressed me. Really loved that one.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:45PM aughscreennames said
I really wish more games would do that (coughMASSEFFECTcough). I dont bother with mission based DLC, I dont think its worth the money. Big expansion packs may cost a lot more but you get what feels like a whole new game.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:47PM BrianH said
@chocobox
no, that doesn't need to happen at all.
no, that doesn't need to happen at all.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:50PM will18057 said
So...what's he trying to say? That Skyrim's DLC is gonna be more like Oblivion's Knights of the Nine and the Shivering Isles? Or is it going to be more like the Thieve's Den and the Wizard's Tower?
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:56PM rob47 said
Listen here Bethseda, Less Mothership Zeta more Shivering Isles.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:56PM (Unverified) said
Listen here Bethseda, Less Mothership Zeta more Shivering Isles.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:56PM Courtney said
I really, really, really hope that there is a sidequest to find horse armor.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 3:59PM sammo21 said
Horse armor? No, you pay for armor to put on the dragons you have to fight!
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:07PM FlashJS said
First, what's the difference between an expansion pack and a DLC?
Second, I wish developers would stop talking about DLCs before the game is released. I know _sometimes_ it's stuff they wouldn't have put in the main game anyways, but it still sounds like a shady marketing/sales ploy, like you're deliberately holding stuff back.
Third, can't wait for Skyrim!!!!
Second, I wish developers would stop talking about DLCs before the game is released. I know _sometimes_ it's stuff they wouldn't have put in the main game anyways, but it still sounds like a shady marketing/sales ploy, like you're deliberately holding stuff back.
Third, can't wait for Skyrim!!!!
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:17PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@FlashJS
My interpretation would be that DLC is any additional content you can download for a game be it horse armor, quests, weapons, clothing etc. Expansions are strictly additional playable portions to the games universe but are bigger in scope than just a standard new quest. Think of expansions as experiencing another part of the main game.
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My interpretation would be that DLC is any additional content you can download for a game be it horse armor, quests, weapons, clothing etc. Expansions are strictly additional playable portions to the games universe but are bigger in scope than just a standard new quest. Think of expansions as experiencing another part of the main game.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:42PM (Unverified) said
@FlashJS i agree, it seem this will be the norm for most games released on consoles, you buy half at retail and then you buy the rest as dlc, lets hope that the half of a game we get a retail should give us enough gameplay hours without us feeling robbed :(
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Posted: Jun 29th 2011 6:08PM aughscreennames said
DLC can be anything, it is downloadable content, whatever that content is. Lost and the Damned and Ballad of Gay Tony are examples of expansions that were DLC.
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Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:12PM mietha said
So, let's translate: Half as many releases, four times the price. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea...
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:41PM MeijinSoki said
@mietha yea never translate another thing in ur entire life
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Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:18PM 2late2die said
I really would prefer developers go back to expansion model, instead of DLCs. For one it gives those of us with less time to play a chance to actually finish the game before new content comes out. Secondly, I prefer higher quality and more substantial content released at slower pace, rather than bite-sized chunks of crappy weapon or character skins, with an occasional 1 hour mission thrown in.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:23PM ColorblindMonk said
The horse armor will have armor.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:23PM Dick Socrates said
Thank goodness. the DLC for Fallout 3 was awful and felt completely disjointed. It wasn't an expansion to the world, it was just some map that wasn't physically part of the world of the main game. Everyone was so excited by the prospect of new territories opening up along the edges of the map. All we got were warps to self contained mini episodes.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:35PM A Sandwich said
I love the concept of DLC. Even if I buy a game that lasts 40 hours and the devs take out a 3 hour quest and charge a few bucks extra for it, I feel like the value for games is so good that I can't begrudge them that.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 4:55PM (Unverified) said
Still going to wait for a discounted GOTY edition with all DLC included. I can't see it being worth buying the game and each DLC just to be able to play sooner.
Posted: Jun 30th 2011 3:08PM (Unverified) said
@Undying:
It's working out great, thanks!
In the past year, I purchased and played all the Fallout 3 DLC, both Mass Effect games and am currently working on Dragon Age: Origins - all at massively discounted prices (usually $5-15) from waiting an extra year or so. I also have a growing backlog of games to play that I've purchased on sale for $5-15, such as STALKER 1+3, Batman Arkham Asylum, Bioshock 1, Morrowind+Oblivion GOTY, FEAR 1+2, The Witcher 1, Serious Sam 1+2, Gothic 1-3, Riddick, AvP, L4D 1+2, Torchlight, etc.
It helped that I was in a WoW black hole for around 3 years, so when I finally quit and went back to single-player games there were tons of discounts on the stuff I'd missed. I've been basically riding that wave of discounts ever since, which keeps me plenty busy to be able to wait for the new stuff to get old and cheap.
Honestly launch prices are just hype taxes of 300+ percent, and I've got a big enough backlog that it just doesn't make sense to pay full prices.
P.S. New Vegas is another game I'm waiting for a GOTY version of, along with Deus Ex 3 and Mass Effect 3. I noticed that New Vegas has actually already gone on sale for $15 at least once, but I'm holding out for a GOTY because I don't want to get roped into paying full price for all of the DLCs.
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It's working out great, thanks!
In the past year, I purchased and played all the Fallout 3 DLC, both Mass Effect games and am currently working on Dragon Age: Origins - all at massively discounted prices (usually $5-15) from waiting an extra year or so. I also have a growing backlog of games to play that I've purchased on sale for $5-15, such as STALKER 1+3, Batman Arkham Asylum, Bioshock 1, Morrowind+Oblivion GOTY, FEAR 1+2, The Witcher 1, Serious Sam 1+2, Gothic 1-3, Riddick, AvP, L4D 1+2, Torchlight, etc.
It helped that I was in a WoW black hole for around 3 years, so when I finally quit and went back to single-player games there were tons of discounts on the stuff I'd missed. I've been basically riding that wave of discounts ever since, which keeps me plenty busy to be able to wait for the new stuff to get old and cheap.
Honestly launch prices are just hype taxes of 300+ percent, and I've got a big enough backlog that it just doesn't make sense to pay full prices.
P.S. New Vegas is another game I'm waiting for a GOTY version of, along with Deus Ex 3 and Mass Effect 3. I noticed that New Vegas has actually already gone on sale for $15 at least once, but I'm holding out for a GOTY because I don't want to get roped into paying full price for all of the DLCs.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 5:05PM ShadowXIII said
Horse armor?
The horse is just bait for the dragons.... what the hell do I need armor for?
The horse is just bait for the dragons.... what the hell do I need armor for?
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 5:35PM Klearwater Killer said
Whore's Armor. Day one purchase.
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 5:49PM FakeKevinButler said
@chocobox
no
no
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 6:02PM bradphillips204 said
@chocobox Someone make this happen, now!
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 7:16PM McDude said
Yes! This is what I'm talking about. So sick of these bite-sized, ineffectual, pieces of shit companies keep releasing that they then charge top dollar for. I don't mind spending money, and I don't mind spending a bit more than usual if I get something I can really sink my teeth into.
Shivering Isles > Every other DLC they've come out with
Shivering Isles > Every other DLC they've come out with
Posted: Jun 29th 2011 7:51PM Hank Hill said
@bradphillips204 A dead space chick photoshopped opposite the dragon, as requested:
http://imgur.com/JFnqt
http://imgur.com/JFnqt








