When Dust 514 was revealed back in 2009, its Icelandic devs at CCP also explained that it'll be microtransaction-based when it launches sometime next summer. Given that the game is now heading exclusively to Sony's PlayStation 3, I couldn't help but wonder exactly how PlayStation Network would handle microtransaction purchases in the game, not to mention what kind of price point Dust 514 would launch at given its business model.
"You effectively pay what we call a 'cover charge,' we're looking at likely around $20 for the initial download. That download gets you the game client plus a bundle of virtual currency which has the equivalent in-game value of $20. So you're basically getting that bundle of cash that you're using to start the game, and from there if you choose to play for free and just grind, you're welcome to do that. But of course we know a lot of people will convert," a CCP rep explained to me this afternoon. As of now, the plan is to release Dust 514 exclusively via the PlayStation Network.
Additionally, the player-driven marketplace so popular in CCP's other big MMO, EVE Online, will also be made available to Dust 514 folks, giving gamers a chance to build up their virtual empires without the use of their hard-earned spondulicks. "Bought currency items and non-currency items can be freely exchanged between the players," creative director Atli Mar Sveinsson added. To CCP, the free flow of the two marketplaces will keep the user base from splitting into two separate factions. "It avoids the buy/win problem that some microtransaction-based games have."
Like EVE Online, CCP expects some players to never even touch the actual first-person shooter gameplay of Dust 514, and simply spend all their time acting as virtual businesspeople. "I wouldn't be surprised if we get quite a few EVE players that join Dust but actually don't play Dust at all, they're just on the market speculating ... and they never go into a match," the rep added with a laugh. Here we go again!
Reader Comments (38)
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 1:34PM Z3R0CO01 said
Microtransactions have been on Home since day 1, so it can't be too complex. At least they are giving you the $20 your investing.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 1:47PM copa said
Nintendo is too primitive, and Microsoft is too closed, to support this sort of game. This should be a big growth area for Sony.
Games like DC Universe online have shown that "pay $60 for the game + $15/month" is NOT going to work in the console market. "Cover charge + freemium model" is the way of the future here.
Games like DC Universe online have shown that "pay $60 for the game + $15/month" is NOT going to work in the console market. "Cover charge + freemium model" is the way of the future here.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 4:31PM mahouneko said
@copa
Here's something interesting that people might want to read:
http://www.develop-online.net/news/38486/Valve-We-need-to-reward-Sony-for-opening-PS3
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Here's something interesting that people might want to read:
http://www.develop-online.net/news/38486/Valve-We-need-to-reward-Sony-for-opening-PS3
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 9:59PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
@Reen Oh? Resistance 3, Killzone 3 and MAG say hi, last time I checked those games were pretty packed with players :/
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Posted: Aug 20th 2011 1:48PM Special Agent Steve said
I really hope this game works out- massive warfare is always fun.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 5:10PM deathaddled said
@Special Agent Steve looks really ambitious. loved planetside, had a lot of potential...
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Posted: Aug 20th 2011 1:51PM Faceless Troll said
You lost me at "microtransactions".
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 6:06PM Fire Walk With Me said
@mahouneko A PLEX, the item you need for 1 month of free play, can be bought and sold on the marketplace. However if a player buy a PLEX that PLEX must be sold by another player. Therefore no PLEX is ever just created by CCP it must be purchased by a player and then sold.
In other words a guy pays his sub and buys a PLEX to sell for ingame currency. A guy wants to grind to get a free month sub but CCP gets payed anyway since the one dude is paying twice.
Its ingenious and it kills gold farmers for the most part.
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In other words a guy pays his sub and buys a PLEX to sell for ingame currency. A guy wants to grind to get a free month sub but CCP gets payed anyway since the one dude is paying twice.
Its ingenious and it kills gold farmers for the most part.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 10:28PM Fire Walk With Me said
@mahouneko essentially if you have money you can just hire someone to farm for you. I've bought a few PLEX for in game money so I can get cool stuff in the beginning. As you age, isk becomes much easier to come by.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2011 11:08PM The Aquacharger said
@Faenix
\Actually DUST 514 will be a $60 disc based game with a $20 cover charge added on. As revieled in the leaked CCP document where they called all the future DUST 514 players "worthless squatters".
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\Actually DUST 514 will be a $60 disc based game with a $20 cover charge added on. As revieled in the leaked CCP document where they called all the future DUST 514 players "worthless squatters".
Posted: Aug 21st 2011 1:38PM Kalex716 said
@mahouneko
They earn money because for every person that has the time it takes to pay their way in game only, theirs people that don't, and more or less pay cash for one of those particular grinders to "sponser" their earnings on their behalf.
Think of it like one person says "I'll give you 15 real bucks, if you give me 2,000 space bucks."
and the other person says "I'll go out and make you 2,000 space bucks, if you give me 15 real bucks".
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They earn money because for every person that has the time it takes to pay their way in game only, theirs people that don't, and more or less pay cash for one of those particular grinders to "sponser" their earnings on their behalf.
Think of it like one person says "I'll give you 15 real bucks, if you give me 2,000 space bucks."
and the other person says "I'll go out and make you 2,000 space bucks, if you give me 15 real bucks".
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 1:55PM Nova17899 said
I tried EVE and I didn't think it really worked for me. Maybe with this I could become a high priced mercenary though
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 2:37PM Dirame said
@Meganinja
There was never going to be a Vita version.
There was never going to be a Vita version.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 2:50PM 66jzmstr said
Am I full of FAIL, or are there zero trailers/teasers for this or SSX offered on PSN?
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 2:59PM (Unverified) said
@Meganinja
They mentioned Vita connectivity at E3, not a full blown Vita version of the game.
They mentioned Vita connectivity at E3, not a full blown Vita version of the game.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:12PM HaVoK308 said
Any interest I had for this game just evaporated.
Micro-transactions = the death of online gaming. They will never me convince me otherwise.
Micro-transactions = the death of online gaming. They will never me convince me otherwise.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 4:07PM SisypheanLife said
@HaVoK308
So long as the base product is available for a low price and the additional transactions are optional, I see no problem with them. If the game is playable and enjoyable without spending extra money, that its a good model.
They fail when they have a high barrier to entry (especially cost) and then try to rely on fees after the fact (monthly subscriptions or micro-transactions). DC Online is a shining example of what not to do. The days of trying to start a MMO community with a full retail release and monthly subscriptions are past and all that try inevitably fail.
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So long as the base product is available for a low price and the additional transactions are optional, I see no problem with them. If the game is playable and enjoyable without spending extra money, that its a good model.
They fail when they have a high barrier to entry (especially cost) and then try to rely on fees after the fact (monthly subscriptions or micro-transactions). DC Online is a shining example of what not to do. The days of trying to start a MMO community with a full retail release and monthly subscriptions are past and all that try inevitably fail.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:15PM danhese007 said
@Meganinja
There is absolutely a Vita version and it is a full game.
There is absolutely a Vita version and it is a full game.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:15PM danhese007 said
@Dirame yes there is
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:16PM type2red said
I'm strangely looking forward to this.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:16PM danhese007 said
@(Unverified) It is a full blown game. It was on the list of third party games coming out on Vita showed by sony at their gamescom press conference.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:18PM dragunrising said
The concept is pretty compelling to me. I was never much interested in EVE nor even knew much about it till recently. I'll be keeping an eye on this game...
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 4:08PM SisypheanLife said
@dragunrising
Its a very intriguing idea and it'll be interesting to see how its actually executed. It could be revolutionary or it could be tedious and uninteresting.
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Its a very intriguing idea and it'll be interesting to see how its actually executed. It could be revolutionary or it could be tedious and uninteresting.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 3:59PM civilciv said
@Reen
lol I'm glad you think you know what all PS3 owners like. COD is popular on all platforms last I checked and that hasn't stopped people from buying games.
lol I'm glad you think you know what all PS3 owners like. COD is popular on all platforms last I checked and that hasn't stopped people from buying games.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 5:43PM (Unverified) said
@danhese007
Was anything explicitly stated? Because last I checked, EVE had several different tools available for checking your pilot status and market information, and until I hear from CCP themselves, that's all this will be to me.
Was anything explicitly stated? Because last I checked, EVE had several different tools available for checking your pilot status and market information, and until I hear from CCP themselves, that's all this will be to me.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 6:08PM Fire Walk With Me said
Hope this works but with PLEX pricing for in game items on Eve O being ridiculously overpriced I dont think most players will be pumped about spending $15 on a gun that can be destroyed.
Icelandic companies really dont get how this is going to work at all.
Icelandic companies really dont get how this is going to work at all.
Posted: Aug 20th 2011 9:40PM ClanPsi said
I wouldn't pay $20 for this game if it wasn't a micro-transaction game.
Posted: Aug 21st 2011 7:22AM Daelen said
Am I the only one who saw "... and they never go into a match" The word match seems to point to instanced space, not open world like PlanetSide.








