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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:45AM Friv0lous said

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Going to be funny when this game comes out and D3 still hasn't made it to beta...

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:47AM Apsac D said

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Funny how a $20 game will offer more than Diablo 3 ever could. Unless Blizzard miraculously announce offline single player.

Runic, you've made a sale here today. I'd happily pay more for this game, $20 is a bargain.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:07AM mrmojoz said

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@Apsac D

Offline single gives you MORE? How?
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:09AM Slomoshun said

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@Apsac D

I like Torchlight and will be getting the second one..but you're pretty bold to say that TL2 will have more than D3 solely because it has offline single player.

The year is 2011...nobody is offline anymore. If you are you're a minority and the reason they make it so you stay online is because of pirating.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:17AM Scuffles said

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@Slomoshun

Yup piracy that's the reason and good on D3 for requiring the game be always connected. Otherwise everyone on teh internetz would be stealin' their game. CURSE YOU INTRANETZ!

Honestly I can almost let D3 slide because odds are I would never have played it offline myself ........ but I also realize that there are people out there who would have, either by choice or circumstance.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:20AM Qurao said

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@Slomoshun "[...] the reason they make it so you stay online is because of pirating."

Nope, I'm pretty sure they said it was to protect the integrity of the auction house.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:23AM Colin said

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@Slomoshun

Hello. In just a week, I move to a new apartment where I won't have internet hooked up for two and a half weeks.

You know what I won't be playing? Games with always on DRM.
You know what I will be playing? Torchlight.

Just because "everyone" is online doesn't mean having the option to play offline is unnecessary. Sometimes you just don't have internet.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:26AM maxxgold said

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@Qurao

Yeah definitely the Auction House. If they didn't require an online connection you could just duplicate all the weapons. Duplication really ruins loot games. I'm real tire of people bitching about having to be online. Grow up, we are all online now. If you can't get online then get a job and support yourself. Jeesh.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:27AM maxxgold said

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@Apsac D

Wow, Your funny. This game will be playable but it will not even hold Diablo III's Balls.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:03AM SuperAnthony64 said

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@maxxgold When you get your paycheck would you be ok with your employer telling you how to spend your money and when to use your money? This is what blizzard is doing with d3. "Hey buy our 60 dollar game but you can only play it while your online. Internet is down? Go play a 99 cent app game. Going on a road trip? Play a 99 cent app game" If you support that you are a sheep.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:03AM Colin said

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@Qurao

Sure, I get it. But why not have the ability to make an offline character that can never play multiplayer, with no ability to go online or buy from the auction house for those times when you don't have internet. Sure people could dupe on their single player character, but who would care?

Oh wait, then it would be easy to pirate, and Blizzard would get less people using the RMT auction house, which mens less profits. Oh well.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 12:21PM Scuffles said

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@Scuffles

Hmm apparently people need to be reacquainted with sarcasm .... or they are actually standing behind the always on DRM.

Oh well makes me smile either way ^^
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 2:09PM Dorako said

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@maxxgold It's not that so many people never have internet, its about the times when you don't have internet. (Out of your house)
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 3:51PM KrazyCalvin said

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@Scuffles I never played Diablo 2 offline once... that was in 2000... If you are playing offline you aren't doing it right.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 4:02PM Apakal said

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@Dorako

Its not even that. Its the simple fact that I'm paying $60 to OWN a game, not rent it. Renting can have all the terms and conditions you want. But if I OWN something, I intend to use it when, where, and however the hell I please. Its that simple.

The argument that a person already has internet is tangent at best, strawman at worst. The point is about ownership.

In all honesty, if this is really the route Blizzard is taking, DIII should be f2p with a monthly sub hybrid option (ala LOTRO or AoC). Then always-on is justified. Otherwise, they can suck it. My money will happily go elsewhere.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 4:04PM Apakal said

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@Qurao

"Nope, I'm pretty sure they said it was to protect the integrity of the auction house."

Which is an abomination in its own right and another reason I'm done giving Blizzard my money.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 8:47PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@KrazyCalvin

So, playing single player on a laptop out of wifi range is "not doing it right?"

Playing offline in a game that deletes your character after 2 weeks of inactivity is "not doing it right?"

If playing Diablo alone on the go is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:39PM Kougeru said

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@Scuffles it's also because of duping and hacking and stuff like that. forcing EVERYTHING to be stuck online reduces the chances of that dramatically...and this is 2011 where everyone is online unless you're on a farm somewhere....
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:52AM Tyran said

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Sweet! A great price for what I hope to be a great game.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:53AM ilduce620 said

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While it's helpful to know things like the final class and the fact that it's going to sell for high cheapness, all I really want to know is:

What is the friggin' release date?! Come on, guys!!

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:26AM RX3115 said

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@ilduce620 I know, I've been craving some good coop for quite some time now.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:55AM RyogaVee said

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This will be one of the first times ever I buy a game first day.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:55AM Hexidecimal said

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Sweet Merciful Christ why isn't this game out RIGHT NOW. Take my monies Runic. Take them now!

Amazing that a 20 dollar title is doing everything right, that Blizzard is doing wrong with Diablo 3.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 9:56AM Vcize said

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Where does an XBLA/PSN release stand for this? I could totally get my wife to play this with me but it will be a much easier sell on a console/couch.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:10AM (Unverified) said

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@Vcize I'm pretty sure they've discussed an XBLA/PSN port, but at the moment they're focusing on getting the PC version out with the OSX version not too far behind. Torchlight 2 was already delayed with its predecessor's console ports.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 2:04PM Revengez said

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@Vcize They also side there's a size limit for XBLA
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:02AM John Z said

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Kind of excited for this. I didn't care for Diablo or D2 at all-- for the most part the whole "loot-based RPG" thing never really struck a chord with me. But playing through Torchlight (it was one of my first purchases when Steam hit the Mac), I found that I could see what people like about it. It lets you get into the game and enjoy the gameplay without having to worry about whether or not you're doing something egregiously wrong.

I'll second the request for info on when TL2 hits the 360, and add a question as to whether the Mac version will be a simultaneous release with the PC version.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:03AM Sh1fty said

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They will definitely get my dollars.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:03AM greyseal said

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Wow. That's a class act.

You've earned yourselves a day one purchase, Runic. Kudos.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:04AM Lynkd34d said

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I will playing this instead of Diablo3, Blizzard has ruined the Diablo frachise for me with their poor choice of always on DRM. Thank you Runic for the first Torchlight which was amazing, and now following it up with what looks to be a great next step.

As Apsac said, $20 is a steal for this game, looking forward to many hours playing with friends.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:04AM EazySCT said

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Good news all around. Smart price. Reminds me of NFL2K VS MADDEN. Hopefully Blizz doesn't get an exclusive contract w the Demon Association

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:34AM Vcize said

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@EazySCT

They got that by default when they signed on with Activision.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:05AM Thesushiroll said

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I loved the first one so much and now finding out this new one is 20 bucks too, damn going to be the first time i buy a game off steam the day it comes out and not waiting for a deal.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:20AM John Z said

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@Thesushiroll

Second for me (I got Recettear day one).
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:08AM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Torchlight made my 2009. Looking forward to this one!

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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Cant wait for this! I bet I can finish it before D3 comes out, ah hell, I may have finished Torchlight 3 by the time D3 comes out.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:17AM DokiDokiBawanga said

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Princess Jasmine for Aladdin is dat you?!!

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:18AM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@DokiDokiBawanga *from
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:19AM Scuffles said

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damn good price point and I hope it works out for them in volume sales ^^
One of the rare rare rare games I will probably buy as soon as its available.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:22AM Scuffles said

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Oh hell who am I kidding .... I'll be nabbing this gem the second its available for pre-order :P
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:25AM ZoidbergMD said

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No, you're right. The staggering amount of content provided by D3 and the item marketplace (which is a legitimate reason for a persistent online connection so you cant dupe items) won't match up to T2. Unless of course you count the content itself. Then yes. By a wide margin will D3 offer more value and gameplay. But you have to be online. They made the same mistake with WoW. Can't believe you need to be online to play that game...

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:28AM GHODZILLA5150 said

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I LOVE Torchlight. i have about 100 hours into it. Just keep playing unlimited Dungeon. Can't wait for TL2 . Awesome game. $20 is Incredible. Day 1 purchase. Steam will eventually have it for $10. That's what I got teh 1st one for.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:30AM CountNoobula said

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Ok, lets put this whole offline/always on thing into perspective:

Yes, many people that buy D3 will require to have an internet connection, and yes, many people in the U.S. and Canada have internet. So this part is nto really a problem. What is a problem is this: SC2 requires a constant connection to Battle.Net. I can count numerous times I wanted to play the campaign and Battle.Net was down for maintenence, so no single-player for me, had to play something else until b.net was back online the next morning. That part sucks. I like to play my RPG's alone first, then join in on the Multiplayer. You can bet your @$$ that B.Net will go down for maintenance a lot when D3 is out.

So, good on you Runic for making offline single-player. Sale! However, I will also get D3 when it comes out in a year or two (called it!).

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:31AM baby sea tuna said

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Put it on XBL and I'll buy it for sure. Maybe I'll even finish the first one by the time they do...

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:50AM KazamaSogetsu said

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Oh wow, $20 is a steal.

Given that it won't come out for XBLA anyway (due to size restrictions), I'll be preordering on Steam as soon as it comes up.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 10:52AM AMonkey said

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I'd happily pay more than $20 for Torchlight 2. Either there is a lot less content than aware of or Runic are really underpricing.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:09AM belcaw said

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Offline solo campaign makes this my goto loot game. Sorry Blizzard, I just don't have a reliable enough Internet connection to chance wasting $60 on you similar game.

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:13AM Torticoli said

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So, why would anyone buy Diablo III, exactly ?

Posted: Aug 26th 2011 12:42PM CountNoobula said

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@Torticoli I would make the argument that D3 might be a 'better quality game'. Have you seen the rune system? Looks nuts. However, I know where your coming from with Blizzards Deuchebaggery tactics as of late.

This game at $20 is a steal, and I will buy and play the crap out of it. But D3 will sell due to it being Diablo, and Blizzard does make good games, aside from acting like ass-hats.
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Posted: Aug 26th 2011 11:17AM Ospov said

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I was going to buy it regardless. I think I picked up the first one for either $5 or $10 on a sale, but I wouldn't mind paying full price for this one.

Of course in 3 or 4 months when it's on sale for 50% off I'll probably be kicking myself...

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