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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 9:56AM (Unverified) said

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So in other words "Hero Mode" will allow more ppl to buy the game since the "hardcore" route limits the sales...
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:06AM Lordd G said

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@(Unverified) Exactly! This fact is confirmed by some of the comments below... I am a gamer from the NES era, but no one wants to be challenged by video games anymore... You buy the game, beat the campaign, unlock achievements, play some multiplayer (if applicable) and move on to the next game.... Which is fine by me, since I don't have the patience for challenging games now that I don't have time to play them as often anymore...
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 12:27PM theBrayn said

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@Lordd G

Ugh, you are the worst kind of gamer. You are the reason why games are only 8 hours max, extremely easy to beat, and have yearly releases. I've never understood why people want to play through a game as quickly as possible and move on to the next thing out.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 1:09PM Opuelas said

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@theBrayn
I consider you the worst kind of *person*, as you are entirely self-serving and can't understand both the market for games and other peoples' situations. In short, get off your high horse; you have no right to judge people.

On top of all of that, you're incorrect, but it's not worth it to explain why.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 9:15PM 2late2die said

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@(Unverified) There's nothing wrong with that. The normal and hardcore difficulties are still there if you want a typical NG game. So what if they provide an easy mode and thus expand the market, how is that hurting you?
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:25PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@Opuelas

Hey, folks, we're all terrible. If we weren't, we'd be doing something useful with our time instead of playing video games, or talking about playing video games.

Gameplay difficulty aside, I think the real issue here is Team Ninja trying to squeeze a story out of Ryu Hayabusa. On its face, it doesn't sound like a terrible idea. Why shouldn't every game have an engaging and interesting story that helps you relate to the main character?

The trouble is, it kind of reminds me of modern day World of Warcraft. I loved WoW until Cataclysm. At that point in the game's life, Blizzard decided they were master storytellers. The quests became extremely linear and heavily laden with characters and plot development. The only problem was, none of it was very good. In exchange for the old open world feel and somewhat free-form quest/level progression, I got a bunch of hackneyed fanfic-quality stories and dopey pop-culture references.

A great story is always fun to experience, but there's something to be said for developers recognizing and sticking to their strengths.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 9:45AM theBrayn said

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@Opuelas

Oh no, someone on the internet doesn't think I'm a good person. What am I going to do? I suppose I could just realize that your opinion of me means nothing and get on with my life, that sounds like a good plan.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:08AM oxfordfishsalon said

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They really need to stop talking about this game, or hire a new publicist or something.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:09AM (Unverified) said

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The slide doesn't look as good as the dash or even the roll. i know realism doesn't mean much in a video game, but Team Ninja is known for their fluid animations and sliding from a standing position just doesn't make a lick of sense, also seems less intuitive.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 5:59PM Lerkero said

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I thought the dash was an improvement. I hope they didn't change it to the slide just to they can have those scripted sliding moments. I highly doubt I would use the slide in combat like they have shown it, but I have yet to play so I'll have to see.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:10AM bargaingamer said

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It sad to see ninja gaiden get a serious Nerf for sales, but that just the way industry is moving to right now and just got to accept it.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:28AM HaVoK308 said

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@bargaingamer

Guess you failed to comprehend the "optional" part. You are not alone apparently. The Internet is filled with such ignorance.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:30AM (Unverified) said

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@bargaingamer

Censored and nerfed for sales. Double the profits.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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@HaVoK308

Even if it's an option, it's still undercutting what the game has meant for many fans. I mean, an easy mode is fine, but having automatic defenses seems a bit extreme.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:49AM eat it said

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If I play this on the easiest setting how does that change the game for you if you choose to play it on the hardest setting?

btw I'm not buying dark souls because I'm pretty sure it's not going to have an easy setting.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 12:08PM Mechazawa Prime said

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@eat it

Development time wasted making easy mode features is development time that could have been used to do something that was actually necessary, like fix the camera. I mean seriously NG is a overall hard series, but NG2 hit it on the head in terms of difficulty settings. Easy was perfect for novices, and the hardest difficulty was good for the "pro's". Adding automatic defense was not necessary and in all realty if you approve of said feature you're basically approving having the game played for you. I mean the stable, the point of NG is to have a challenging experience. You're not experiencing NG if the game does all the work. Besides that this is just one small feature among a plethora of others that have also neutered this franchise of its identity. From the over abundance of QTEs, the lack of gore, and the fact the sword is the only weapon in the game. Add in a focus on story, a previously cheesy-funny-there-only-to-have-an-excuse-to-fight-ninja-dogs type of plot and it's very easy to see why so many fans are alienated. This entire game is pandering to people who did not like the original two while leaving long time fans high and dry.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 12:20PM Roxas560 said

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@eat it
i pray you aren't serious
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 12:32PM corna said

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@HaVoK308 This is just one aspect of a whole host problems. No good news has come out of this game (apart from the fact that it exists, since I'll take even a shoddy Ninja Gaiden over a lot of other games).
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 1:13PM Opuelas said

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@Mechazawa Prime
You sir, are full o fit--you don't actually know if that "development time" could have been put towards something that would have made you more happy with the game. Development is more complex than organizing a spreadsheet of tasks.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 3:25PM Mechazawa Prime said

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@Opuelas

Time spent is time spent, period. Fact is it's resources that could have been used to start something else worth while. That said this feature is not what really irks me. It's everything else I mentioned
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:10AM DokiDokiBawanga said

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Yay that's just decided on me buying this game!!! i like Ninja Gaiden style but i never were able to play sigma 2 it was too hard even on easy and i don't need challenge i just want fun without dying. i'm glad they finally made easy mode, well easy! So they just made a sale.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:26AM Mazrael said

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@DokiDokiBawanga Hard is the easy mode
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:28AM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@Mazrael you don't make any sense.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:39AM (Unverified) said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

He's using old Team Ninja terminology, back when the easiest modes were still difficult for some. But this is the new Team Ninja, where they are pretty much guaranteeing victory for anyone who plays it.

To me the greater the risk, the greater the reward is where the fun comes from, but to each his own.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:24AM daltonVader91 said

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I thought the entirety of the Ninja Gaiden story was "Ninja dude chops up a bunch of other ninja and non-ninja dudes. The End.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:43AM koehler83 said

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@daltonVader91

Up to this point, that's been the case. How can they justify continuing the series on that alone? Essentially, you're getting everything you want to out of the demo.

If you don't know about Ryu Hayabusa, how can you care about him? If you don't care about him, how can you care about the game? If you don't care about the game, how can you care about the franchise? Personally, I haven't found a reason to care about it since the NES days. Blood spraying everywhere is cool... for about 10 minutes.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 2:04PM YanDaMan said

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@koehler83 We all already know Ryu is an unstoppable ninja badass. Thats all we need.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:40PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@koehler83

Why do I need to care about him? I just need him to be a proper instrument to translate my button presses and joystick movements in to the slashes and blocks necessary to kill a bunch of monsters/dudes.

I don't know what crazy upside down world you're living in that provides you with action game demos that contain all of the enemy/boss types. Meeting them, figuring them out and, finally, murdering them to pieces was the core of Ninja Gaiden; Ryu's journey was not.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:27AM Anarqi said

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Hero mode sounds more like, "I'm a pansy mode"
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:25AM Spookimitsu said

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@Anarqi

OOooh there should be a special achievement, like a badge of shame if you play and beat the game on easy. Something that brands you thusly
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:52AM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@Spookimitsu hahah i play all my games on easy and don't feel shame at all because i don't care about challenge.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 2:29PM Spookimitsu said

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@DokiDokiBawanga

That's fine, but I don't think you should be able to get away with it in games which are known for their difficulty.
Did you play Demon Souls?
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:42PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@Spookimitsu

Negative gamescore/trophy points.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:36AM Dahlius said

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To be fair a lot of the difficulty in both Ninja Gaiden Black and Sigma stemmed from the often poorly placed camera angles and a very poor checkpoint system.

No matter how hard NG3 will be on the hardest difficulty, inserting such a difficulty is insulting to the fans of the series, although understandable from a financial and marketing point of view.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:05AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Dahlius

Sigma 1 and 2 are remade versions of 1 and 2 for the PS3 which are actually easier then the originals.

Black was a "remade" version of 1 containing the two hurricane packs + additionals and made harder.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:07AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Dahlius

Black also already had an easier mode in it, Ninja Dog.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:19AM Dahlius said

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@This Little Man Says His Name Is

I know. Although I'm not sure if Sigma was actually easier than Black, from what I remember it was the same with all the added downloadable content. Sigma 2 was defineatly easier than NG2 (which was pretty damn easy to begin with) which is why I made the distinction of specificaly naming Ninja Gaiden Black and Sigma (1) as to not include NG2 or Sigma 2 since they weren't nearly as hard or as challenging as their prequels.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:38AM JudgeCuervo said

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No one is forcing you to play Hero mode. Put your egos in check, please.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 12:59PM theBrayn said

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@JudgeCuervo

No one is forcing you to agree with their OPINION. Put your e-peen in check, please.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 1:19PM CalmGiant said

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@theBrayn Their (and your) "opinion" is idiotic. Period.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:39AM DevilSei said

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Yep, Ryu Hayabusa, the relatable Super Ninja with enemies who say such threatening and confident lines like "Please! Don't kill me!" or "I have a family!".

Whatever happened to the Ryu Hayabusa who just sliced the s%^& out of everyone foolish enough that tried to stop him, fiend or kamikaze ninja? The one that actually, you know, focused on what mattered in the bloody games in the first place.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 10:52AM CalmGiant said

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You guys are thr most self-righteous prats, I swear. This mode is OPTIONAL. Don't you want more people to buy and support this game? I beat Ninja Gaiden Black on Master Ninja and loved every second of it (well not every second) so I won't be touching this new mode. But if more people will enjoy the game SO BE IT. It's not like they're nerfing the game for us "hardcore" players.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 1:01PM theBrayn said

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@CalmGiant

No, I don't because that would just encourage them in their belief that this was the correct decision for this game franchise. They are taking away the things which made this series great and are dumbing it down for the masses. I don't want a casual game, I want a Ninja Gaiden game.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 1:18PM CalmGiant said

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@theBrayn What the hell are you talking about? They're not taking ANYTHING away, they're ADDING an easier mode for for people that want to jump into the game. Our difficulty levels are still there, dude, gain some reading comprehension.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 9:53AM theBrayn said

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@CalmGiant

Yeah, how silly of people to think that changing mechanics in a game will have a negative effect on other parts of the game production. Gee, you're so smart.

The new people working on Team Ninja are completely changing how this game series is played and this particular item isn't the only change they have made to core mechanics. You are seeing one part of the game when others are looking at all the changes as a whole and they don't like where this new game is taking the series.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:06AM JohnFordColey said

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What, you mean normal people might a shot a beating Ninja Gaiden 3? THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO PASS.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:23AM Spookimitsu said

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@JohnFordColey

THIS^^^^^

I wear my achievements in the Ninja Gaidens of olden days as a badge of honour, and I shall pass them down to my sons.

This... Easy mode, is a slap in the -face- ....errr hooded mask.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:34AM superfrick said

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@Spookimitsu I'm sure that there will be an Achievement/Trophy for beating the game on "Super Extreme Ninja Difficulty" or whatever.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:07AM GlockXIII said

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I would've done the same thing if I was in Yusuda's shoes. Its disheartening when people throw away your art when then barely give it a chance.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2011 11:24AM Spookimitsu said

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@GlockXIII


I'm sorry, exploding shurikens and waterwalking aren't for everyone.
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