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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:06PM Once known as Shadsy said

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Maximum wut

If they threw in some rudimentary form of the Sandbox, where you could just blow things up, that'd sweeten the deal even more... but I shouldn't count on it.

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:25PM Co said

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@Once known as Shadsy

If consoles 5-6 years old can pull off this kind of stuff, I cannot wait to see what 3rd party devs are cooking up for Wii U!

E3 2012 cant come soon enough!
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:42PM Steel Toad said

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@Once known as Shadsy \

Yup. Beat it on the PC years ago. Definitely worth picking it up. Especially for $20.

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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 3:36PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Co

WiiU ... lol
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 6:40PM kevinski said

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@Co - Knowing Nintendo, Wii U can probably just about pull off everything that a 5- or 6-year-old console can. I wouldn't expect much more.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 8:19PM Vuvuzelas said

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@Co did you seriously get downvoted?

that's pathetic
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Posted: Sep 27th 2011 12:38AM Rick1220 said

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@Co

I really hope that was sarcasm.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:06PM SisypheanLife said

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Yeah yeah, we know it can't look as good as the PC version.

I thought I would get that out of the way early.

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:13PM PR0F3TA said

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@SisypheanLife

oh the PC douchebaggery? naw you can keep it to yourself next time. You don't wanna be THAT guy
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:24PM LoneGunman said

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@PR0F3TA Sounds like you are butthurt bro. It's ok if you are a console kiddie. But he speaks the truth, it will look better on the PC. You have graphic options you can adjust on the PC version. The console needs to run at set parameters in order to maintain a steady framerate.

The Xbox 360 is about 2 generations behind the PC in terms of horsepower.

So just stop your crying and accept this.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:40PM Epoque said

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I swear the Joystiq crowd is getting dumber and dummurr. Try reading before replying to someone's comment and bickering like fanboy babies.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:48PM Faceless Troll said

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@LoneGunman Because most PC gamers totally don't run games at medium or anything.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:57PM TheScientistofTomorrow said

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@LoneGunman Ahahahaha, oh wow, listen to you.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:03PM Klearwater Killer said

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@LoneGunman
you should try reading the post b4 you go off like some kind of d*ck.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:27PM Opuelas said

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@LoneGunman

I think his point was "talking about this is stupid so don't contribute to the stupidity by exacerbating the stupid subject with more stupid."

Let's all try and keep the stupid down from now on, yes?
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:39PM LEONLEONLEON said

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@Faceless Troll

Yeah, I know i cant run everything on high. Mostly medium.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 4:34PM jackal said

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@PR0F3TA

"oh the PC douchebaggery? naw you can keep it to yourself next time. You don't wanna be THAT guy"

Or you could keep your own inane, vapid comments to yourself and save some valuable real estate on the first page of this thread. Some day, PROF3TA, you'll actually contribute something actually worthwhile to a conversation.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 7:42PM Esposch said

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@Faceless Troll

If you run games at medium, you're not part of the "hardcore PC gamer enthusiast e-peen crowd". Unless said game is called Crysis, Cryostasis or Metro 2033.

@Stiqlol

Believe it or not, decent gaming PCs don't cost that much. I recently bought a Radeon HD5770 for my PC. Cost me all of $73 - and that's in Australian money.
Chucked it in with my $50 E8200, $50 P5K, $50 worth of DDR2 (4gb) and $90 case and PSU and I have something literally 5x as powerful as a PS3 for about the same price.

PCs are only expensive and/or underpowered when you buy a brand-name model or get enthusiast-end hardware when it first comes out.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 8:36PM jackal said

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@Esposch

Getting an HD 5770 for less than $75's a steal; where I live, they retail for twice that and that's also factoring in the reduced cost for clearance. Some people just don't seem to understand that you can build a solid gaming PC without breaking the bank. The $1500-$2000 PC *only* makes sense if: you're trying to play the most visually demanding games on the market with every image quality preset maxed out, at a v-synced 60 FPS, and only at a resolution of at least 2500x1600, if you're a heavy folder, or if you're into bit-coin mining as something other than a hobby. For everyone else, $500-$600 is enough. Is it more expensive than a console? Yes, it is. But I remember quite a few people (in Canada at least) dropping $500 on a 20 GB Xbox 360 or a $700 PS3 60 GB when they came out, without uttering a complaint.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 11:12PM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Esposch

Sure that may have been cheap. But you wont be playing games on anything above medium for the next couple years before even low wont handle it.
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Posted: Sep 27th 2011 9:58AM JCDoe said

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@Esposch

You're forgetting the overhead of the OS on a PC, however. While the hardware on my PC is heftier than that of a 360, the performance is comparable because of all of the threads required to run windows.

Also, when you compare pc and 360 visuals, you really start running into a game of diminishing returns. Can you tell the difference between 1 gazillion polygon models and 2 gazillion poly models? I know I can't!

My only gripes with current gen consoles are physics and memory. Play Arkham Asylum on a pc with physx turned on, and you'll see what I mean physics wise. As far as memory goes, 512 mb of shared memory or 256 mb of vid mem/system mem is absurd. More polygons I can live without. Low res textures, though, make me sad.
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Posted: Sep 27th 2011 6:14PM jackal said

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@JCDoe

"You're forgetting the overhead of the OS on a PC, however. While the hardware on my PC is heftier than that of a 360, the performance is comparable because of all of the threads required to run windows."

The overhead of running an OS in the background isn't that considerable on a modern PC with an appropriate amount of system RAM; 99% of your CPU time and 75-95% of your available DRAM is consumed by the application(s) you yourself launched. The two things that prevent a game from reaching its peak performance on any PC are 1) the necessity of APIs and 2) the lack of hardware optimizations. A developer *could* completely bypass Direct3D or OpenGL and program directly to the metal in order to achieve maximum throughput; doing so, however, makes the game compatible ONLY with that specific hardware configuration. As for 2), a developer can only make so many hardware specific optimizations before earning the ire of potential customers who happened to make the "wrong" purchase.

"Also, when you compare pc and 360 visuals, you really start running into a game of diminishing returns. Can you tell the difference between 1 gazillion polygon models and 2 gazillion poly models? I know I can't!"

The issue with that thinking, though, is that most of those games are cross platform titles developed with the constraints of the weakest platform in mind; the modern videogame industry requires multiplatform titles to scale up from the weakest common denominator instead of scaling down. If you compare a PC port to a console port, the biggest differences you are going to see are higher quality anti-aliasing, texture filtering, higher precision lighting, and higher precision post processing effects; there's only so much you can do to compensate using the same core art and geometry assets.

You might not be able to see a major benefit to increased environmental geometry, but it's pretty easy to spot in character models.
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Posted: Oct 6th 2011 6:12PM toidnugget said

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@LoneGunman

do i really need to explain this? cant we all just accept that any pc with a large enough case and an owner with enough money can blow past most technical limitations set for the common pc and all limitations placed for a console? anyone ever read a pc magazine? and ya know what, pc owners have a right to rejoice, they put in the money to get what they want, and they got it. the pc is still the premiere platform for graphical fidelity. like seriously give it a break. this is coming from a broke ass console owner pining for the perfect pc. so shaddup already. douchebaggery aside from BOTH sides of this perpetually stupid argument, this guy is right.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:07PM Faceless Troll said

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You can already use the xbox controller on the PC version so it seems like it'd be an easy port.

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 2:14PM killerjuice said

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@Faceless Troll

I'm sorry, but that didn't make any sense at all. I guess for the 360 port, the control mapping would be done, but getting the game to run on consoles, especially the PS3, requires considerable changes. Changing the buttons is probably the easiest and shortest part of making a port. Of course porting a game is easier than making a new game, it's not a 1 hour job; it still takes a while.

Well, maybe you were just trolling as your name implies.
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/10249953.jpg
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 2:18PM Faceless Troll said

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@killerjuice Maybe you're just an idiot who doesn't understand how hyperbole works.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 3:24PM MercShame said

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@Faceless Troll
Looks like they are rebuilding it in the CryEngine 3 engine, so it would be more than a port.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 4:18PM SThompson said

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@Faceless Troll
The Internet has provided a forum where sarcastic people and idiots exist and trade information, with no indications which is which. Many people find ways to indicate intent of their statements, while other people do not. If textual clues are not given, it is easy to mistake intent.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:08PM Aron said

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Awesome! I hope the download size isn't ridiculous though...

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:13PM Faceless Troll said

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@Aron It's a 12gb or so install on the PC, so it shouldn't be -too- bad.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:39PM Mcmax3000 said

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@Faceless Troll 12GB?

If it's more than even a quarter of that, I'll be passing. The game looks cool & I've heard good things but I have zero interest in downloading a game even remotely close to that size.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:09PM xWSx Logan said

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So...many...games...can't...choose...what to play?!

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:20PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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@xWSx Logan

When in doubt - play with yourself.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:11PM Alphonze said

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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:24PM whylekat said

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@Alphonze

Ouch! Way to bring it down a few pegs.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:49PM Resident Evil 6 Puppy Madness said

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@Alphonze
So much grass????
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:50PM Lnds500 said

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@Alphonze I guess the screenshots above are from another platform then, because they look waaay better than what you claim to be 360 screenshots.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:04PM LexStewther said

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@Lnds500

either that or he just turned the graphics way down on his PC and are trying to pass them off as real. i doubt that he has even played the console version, much less have had enough time to find the exact spot in the console version from the PC version. trolls will be trolls.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:10PM carbonize said

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@Lnds500 PS3 screenshots perhaps?

What I do find funny is the PC version has lush vegetation but cannot handle a simple HUD?

;)
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:34PM Alphonze said

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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:44PM Mcmax3000 said

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@Alphonze - If the game is fun, I don't care how much vegetation there is... And if it's not fun, I don't care about the game at all, no matter how pretty.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:13PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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$20? it should be $15 at this point....

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:14PM Faceless Troll said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi Pretty sure I got it for less than $10 thanks to Steam sales.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:16PM aray48 said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi
why would it be?
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:32PM ItsameMatt03 said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi

$20 is much less than the couple hundred I would need to spend on PC upgrades to play. My computer is kind of crappy. I'm fine with the price.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 1:17PM GreenElf said

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@Faceless Troll

That's the PC version.

They have to have reasons to port these older games to modern consoles. In this case it's those two sawbucks.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 2:39PM DangerMouse001 said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi

The length of the game is decent. Sure it's a few years old, but if you've never played it before, it's not outrageous. Now if they were to later release Crysis:Warhead at this price, then that would be something to complain about.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:17PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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I'll buy it at a cry price!

Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:19PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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Ok sorry, that was terrible. Even for me.

I'd even go so far as calling it a cryme against comedy itself.
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Posted: Sep 26th 2011 12:17PM subby socks said

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I liked Crysis 2 right up until the aliens came in. Then it went to shit real quick. Is this more of the same? I hope there's at least a demo.

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