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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:42PM Disco Ball said

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GRENADE!

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:54PM INTRO said

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@Disco Ball RELOAD
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:12PM Snide Jackal said

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@Disco Ball LIGHTSABER ON GRENADE
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:26PM Nirvash Planeteer Power of Capt said

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@Disco Ball
CROUCH, STAND UP, CROUCH, STAND UP, CROUCH, STAND UP!
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:55PM Grimcicle 2 Electric Boogaloo said

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@Disco Ball

DOUBLE-WHAMMY!
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:51AM Kenoji said

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@Disco Ball --

Alright, let's do this!

GRENA---

*Headshot*
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 7:45PM Mazrael said

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@Kenoji

Actions Bang Louder... - killed by an opponent while you were attempting to throw a grenade (requires Kinect) - 0G
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:45PM arucious said

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I thought it said Grendel...

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:13PM Ryuk said

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@arucious I'm right there with you...
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:04AM liquidsoap89 said

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@arucious

Ditto.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 11:04AM Timjoy said

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@arucious

SO DID I...I was thinking he was going to be in the next batman game or something....
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:49PM Diet Kane said

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...Couldn't you just map it to a button?

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:08PM ItsameMatt03 said

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@Diet Kane

Completely missing the point.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:30PM antv said

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@ItsameMatt03 I think the Kinect is completely missing the point.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:31PM TheBrainninja said

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@ItsameMatt03

There's a point...?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:52PM ItsameMatt03 said

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@TheBrainninja

Fun, maybe?

People get too serious over this stuff nowadays. You can't just relax and say, "That's cool." Nobody is going to force you to use any of these features.

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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 7:48AM kmcroc said

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@ItsameMatt03 +100
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 6:58PM acme64 said

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@ItsameMatt03 achievement unlocked! used Kinect voice commands 300 times!
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 7:30PM Mazrael said

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pressing a button takes far less time than saying "grenade".. plus has less chance of wasting one when you say "awesome, another grenade" & team kill your buddy

Analyse could be just put in a menu, when characters are met or killed in your game...

why slow down the gameplay?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:54PM Hi iTs SlayeR said

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343...you have truly made us fans proud.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:32PM TheBrainninja said

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@Hi iTs SlayeR

By not shoehorning pointless Kinect features into the Classic render mode? I would say that is less "making fans proud" and more "nervously avoiding a shitstorm."
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:00PM R Planteer said

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Really confusing for anyone familiar with military lingo, as you shout "Grenade!" when you and your squad need to take cover from an enemy grenade, and you shout "Frag out!" when you are throwing a grenade at the enemy.

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:00AM HaVoK308 said

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@R Planteer

You clearly get your info from FPS and movies.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:38AM ItsameMatt03 said

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@HaVoK308

You are clearly mis-informed.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:52AM GuitarHero666 said

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@R Planteer

I'll just shout FIRE IN THE HOLE! Or, if you want to sound stupid, F1R3 1N T3H H0L3!
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Posted: Oct 17th 2011 9:15AM TheShaper said

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@R Planteer
First thing that came to mind
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:01PM sadistic freek said

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I'm ready to have my friends screw me over by yelling "Grenade!" and "Reload!" at the most inconvenient times...

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:02PM Jameseh said

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Crowd is a bit mental, cheering over a 3D model viewer.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:10PM Dibils said

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why you need a kinect? why cant this be done just by using a mic

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:24PM Negatron said

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@Dibils

I'm sticking by my guns, and saying the Kinect is completely useless for serious gaming purposes. People unfamiliar with gaming and kids can knock themselves out but all i've seen thus far are rinky dink features it adds to games...

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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:25PM jtrjuwrue5iiejie5ijeie3i5 said

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@Dibils It can be done, but then Microsoft wouldn't be able to sell you a redundant $150 peripheral.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:30PM wunwunx said

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@Dibils
THIS.
No one has said ANYTHING about using the voice commands in the new dashboard with the MICROPHONES THAT COME WITH THE XBOX
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:42PM Draken Stark said

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@Dibils
The official reason was explained with Mass Effects use of Kinect. It uses the camera to make sure you're the one saying commands instead of anyone else or anything nearby.

I'd still prefer the regular mic. The best game I've ever seen use it is End War and it works great as far as I can tell.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:49PM ItsameMatt03 said

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@wunwunx

Voice recognition. Simple as that. It's a lot more complicated than you'd like to think.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 3:27AM Vcize said

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@Dibils

While obviously I think this implementation of the kinect is stupid, I *really* don't understand what is so difficult to understand about the difference between the kinect and a mic.

The kinect includes complex voice recognition software. There is a *HUGE* difference between writing the code to map a word that is already deciphered to an action and writing the code to actually decipher what people are saying into a mic. One of them is 10 lines of code while the other is 10,000.

There's a reason that mics have existed this entire generation yet voice commands were still extremely rare. It's a much bigger deal to pay a team of ten programmers 200k to work three months on writing voice recognition software than it is to simply add a couple of lines of code that say

if(voiceInput == 'grenade')
doAction(throwGrenada);
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 8:20AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@Draken Stark

Mass Effects reason for using it was that the Kinect SDK already features a fully fleshed out system for using voice commands.

By using the Kinect bioware doesn't have to write their own system for interpreting commands spoken into a microphone/headset.

The same principle applies here.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 10:40AM Seasick Pirate said

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@Negatron
Well said. Too many people think video games are games.
Why don't they understand they're REAL LIFE?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:12PM Warlock234 said

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I don't quite understand what they were cheering for when the 3D model of the Elite came up. Nothing evolutionary there...

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:29PM TheBrainninja said

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@Warlock234

I don't understand why they were cheering at all.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:14PM Ryuk said

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Well, this is one of the good ways I thought Kinect could be used way back when they announced it. This and head-tracking. So kudos, 343, for at least trying to not make it gimmicky

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:15PM PedoJokerBear said

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Halo: Jersey Shore?

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:15PM religiousjedi said

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Kinect fails if it cannot recognize "TEABAG!"
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:30PM FreakSheet said

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Hmmm... lets try some other stuff...

TEABAG!
RAGE QUIT!
BLAME LAG!

... this could work.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:47PM Draken Stark said

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Better yet, the dpad isn't used in the original halo and it could be used as a 'listen' button instead of chat locally. A chat button (up on the dpad) wasn't used at all in Reach like it was in Halo 3 as well. Four totally open buttons as of Reach.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:48PM Draken Stark said

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Just to be clear I was refering to chat commands they're using kinect for.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:47PM LinkRazr said

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"Don't ya know I would catch a grenade for ya.."
::BOOM::
Dammit, turn down that radio!!

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:50PM Draken Stark said

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@LinkRazr
Actually they're using kinect to prevent that exact issue. The cameras are checking to make sure someone facing the TV is saying it.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 11:45AM Xupmatoih said

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@Draken Stark ...so i can't sing that song while playing? D:
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:57PM possdoom said

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so instead of just pushing a simple button you have to clearly say GRENADE Im sorry but that just seems like a complication the only thing that looks cool is the analize mode but theres no way to get to it without kinect that seems stupid was it to difficult to add one more tab in the options menu and call it Extras

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:38AM Hoops said

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@possdoom It has nothing to do with difficulty. These features exist SOLEY so Microsoft can tie the Kinect to Halo. If there was no Kinnect, they wouldn't have bothered adding these functions at all. If you have a Kinnect, use them if you want, if not, the regular buttons will still work.
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