Of course, analysts had pre-orders pegged at roughly 9 million, so you know what that means to Battlefield 3 fans. Yes, Modern Warfare 3 is a huge disappointment falling well short of expectations. See, internet? Everybody wins!
Of course, analysts had pre-orders pegged at roughly 9 million, so you know what that means to Battlefield 3 fans. Yes, Modern Warfare 3 is a huge disappointment falling well short of expectations. See, internet? Everybody wins!
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:19AM Fuglyjerm said
Haha it the same game just added spec ops new guns, killstreaks, changed how you earn kill streaks, added leveling for your guns. Wait this is starting to sound alot different. This is suppose to be like the first one for the campaign it's th sequel. If its exactly te same than all shooters are the same u just get a gun and shoot people. When are they gonna learn that some people play shooter not to do that.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:14AM JimmyHACK said
Big Money!!!
Uncharted 3 did 3.8 million "sold" day one... I was expecting higher for MW3 for sure, but still.. they RICH!!
Uncharted 3 did 3.8 million "sold" day one... I was expecting higher for MW3 for sure, but still.. they RICH!!
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:28AM chrisgrant said
@JimmyHACK
That 3.8m was "sell-in" which is code for "shipped" which is why we didn't cover it at Joystiq.
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That 3.8m was "sell-in" which is code for "shipped" which is why we didn't cover it at Joystiq.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:39AM counterko said
@JimmyHACK
Everybody needs to remember that SALES DOES NOT EQUAL QUALITY. It's measures the success of marketing. If you think I'm BS, then you must agree that Britney Spears, Soulja Boy, Transformers(Michael Bay), Angry Birds are the best of all time. They're not and the only reason why they sell so much is because of hype. Casuals feel like they have to keep up with the Kardashians.
Shadow of Colossus, Okami, God Hand, and Rune Factory are regarded by as AAA games by the hardcore gamers but because their marketing team is full of monkeys they don't get the sales they deserve.
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Everybody needs to remember that SALES DOES NOT EQUAL QUALITY. It's measures the success of marketing. If you think I'm BS, then you must agree that Britney Spears, Soulja Boy, Transformers(Michael Bay), Angry Birds are the best of all time. They're not and the only reason why they sell so much is because of hype. Casuals feel like they have to keep up with the Kardashians.
Shadow of Colossus, Okami, God Hand, and Rune Factory are regarded by as AAA games by the hardcore gamers but because their marketing team is full of monkeys they don't get the sales they deserve.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:43AM JasonA said
@counterko
I don't think hype is the only reason that those things sell so much.
I think it's the simplicity and ease of those things. They are very straight forward, easy to get into things that don't require much brain power, which is what the masses generally want.
I'm not even criticizing the masses - after a long day at work, I like me some Britney Spears and Angry Birds.
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I don't think hype is the only reason that those things sell so much.
I think it's the simplicity and ease of those things. They are very straight forward, easy to get into things that don't require much brain power, which is what the masses generally want.
I'm not even criticizing the masses - after a long day at work, I like me some Britney Spears and Angry Birds.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 11:14AM radioactivez0r said
@counterko I feel like I need to say 'duh'. Activision could give a shit if the game is any good - they've engineered a response to "NEW COD OMGOMGOMG" and from there it's gravy. It would surprise me that this one outsold the last one after hearing industry folks saying it's basically more of the same and getting stale, but the 6 million people who bought it don't care/listen to that. They just want new shiny CoD, regardless of how different it might actually be from the game they were playing the day before.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 12:44PM Prince David said
@counterko Sales does not equal quality but from what I have seen, this is a very high quality game.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 1:26PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@chrisgrant
Then why do you cover console "sales" when that data is always representative of shipped to retail?
If a game ships to a retailer isn't that essentially a sale for the publisher?
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Then why do you cover console "sales" when that data is always representative of shipped to retail?
If a game ships to a retailer isn't that essentially a sale for the publisher?
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 7:09PM CarmineSaved said
@chrisgrant Pretty sure Naughty Dog confirmed that the 3.8 was in fact units sold.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:15AM Pure Black World Tendency said
Aye...modern dwarf hair is very popular with the youth these days.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:37AM Miami Prodigy said
@Pure Black World Tendency
I played and beat MW3.... and my god I was disappointed with it.... I felt like I was playing call of duty 4 back in 07.
other than special ops... call of duty modern warfare 3 sucks. how it makes this much money confuses the shit out of me.... you want to play a real first person shooter that try's to raise the bar.... pick up halo reach or battlefield 3.
call of duty = SAME OLD SHIT.
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I played and beat MW3.... and my god I was disappointed with it.... I felt like I was playing call of duty 4 back in 07.
other than special ops... call of duty modern warfare 3 sucks. how it makes this much money confuses the shit out of me.... you want to play a real first person shooter that try's to raise the bar.... pick up halo reach or battlefield 3.
call of duty = SAME OLD SHIT.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:47AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
@Miami Prodigy Except CoD4 was longer and better.....storywise
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 6:01PM (Unverified) said
@Miami Prodigy battlefield 3 and halo reach are weak arguments since they both update on the same old.formulas like.cod does.and battlefield is been around longer...
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 6:08PM (Unverified) said
@Miami Prodigy breath in breath out but introduce pure O2 and that equals same old shit? and by the way it is not simple i wouldn't fancy tackling the mutiplayer if i hadn't played the rest.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:19AM JasonA said
Good for them.
MW3 is a super polished, expertly crafted, insanely addictive and very fun game that deserves these sales numbers.
MW3 is a super polished, expertly crafted, insanely addictive and very fun game that deserves these sales numbers.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:13AM DarkNightRJ said
@JasonA
He probably had trouble typing this comment without laughing.
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He probably had trouble typing this comment without laughing.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:59AM RandomfragLOL said
@JasonA
No sales numbers just show the hype, the game it self is disappointing. When Sledge signed up on this I knewthe end result would be bad. I still feel IW did it right with MW and MW2 and once the had the "fall out" and fired people it went downhill. At least we have Trey Arch to make a good COD game,
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No sales numbers just show the hype, the game it self is disappointing. When Sledge signed up on this I knewthe end result would be bad. I still feel IW did it right with MW and MW2 and once the had the "fall out" and fired people it went downhill. At least we have Trey Arch to make a good COD game,
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 11:33AM daytripper said
@JasonA
Guess they ran out of polish in the bug department.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wfSg_-61FU&feature=feedu
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Guess they ran out of polish in the bug department.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wfSg_-61FU&feature=feedu
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 3:35PM theSkillfull1 said
@JasonA
I bought MW3 myself, but sales numbers mean nothing regarding quality. Look at Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Twilight, and others. MW3 is fine, but it's more of the same, which I want on occasion.
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I bought MW3 myself, but sales numbers mean nothing regarding quality. Look at Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Twilight, and others. MW3 is fine, but it's more of the same, which I want on occasion.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:21AM GreenLight said
Is it me, or do all the maps on MW3 multiplayer seem the same? Fun game, but every map is either medium or small-sized.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:35AM babywolfman said
@GreenLight
I opted to rent this year's game (loved MW2, but got bored) and it seemed all of the maps are kinda small. I don't know if it's because I'm not familiar with them or what, but I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed.
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I opted to rent this year's game (loved MW2, but got bored) and it seemed all of the maps are kinda small. I don't know if it's because I'm not familiar with them or what, but I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 10:08AM GreenLight said
@babywolfman ... You're definitely not alone. I've been a lot since Tuesday, so I'm pretty familiar with the maps. Another thing I noticed, was that snipers have been given a lot more power. Quick-scoping is requires a lot less accuracy too...and this is coming from a terrible sniper (myself). Other than these minor annoyances, I definitely enjoy the game.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 3:20PM maxwell97 said
@GreenLight yeah, I'm happy with mw3 overall, but the maps are probably the weakest part. They're okay, but they don't seem as interesting so far as mw2's. Actually they seem to play better in hardcore mode than standard, because it's slower paced and you have to use the environment to your advantage. in standard, it moves so fast it feels like you're just chasing each other in circles.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:22AM sammo21 said
Good for them, but after beating the single player (only 4.5 hours hours long) I can't help buy think this might be the laziest CoD yet...I bet this was the last COD game to sport the "modern warfare moniker.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:45AM eat it said
@Enola Gay
They don't reinvent the engine every year because it doesn't make sense. once they build the assets they may as well use them for a while and churn out new maps, locations, stories, and weapons.... while they make billions and employ hundreds if not thousands of people.
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They don't reinvent the engine every year because it doesn't make sense. once they build the assets they may as well use them for a while and churn out new maps, locations, stories, and weapons.... while they make billions and employ hundreds if not thousands of people.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:49AM (Unverified) said
@sammo21 I put MW2 back in a few months back just to keep the look and feel of the game somewhat fresh in my head (I jumped ship last Dec. to predominantly Halo:Reach).
Fast forward to yesterday, and playing the game made me feel more nostalgic rather than actually playing a new entry in the CoD series. It can not be stressed enough that the engine hasn't been altered at all. Graphically, it looks the same as MW2. Gameplay, still feels like CoD, but when you are in your third iteration (or fifth if you count WaW and BO), it needs to be shaken up a bit. And the maps were terrible. Very little variety in terms of layout.
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Fast forward to yesterday, and playing the game made me feel more nostalgic rather than actually playing a new entry in the CoD series. It can not be stressed enough that the engine hasn't been altered at all. Graphically, it looks the same as MW2. Gameplay, still feels like CoD, but when you are in your third iteration (or fifth if you count WaW and BO), it needs to be shaken up a bit. And the maps were terrible. Very little variety in terms of layout.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:51AM chrisgrant said
@Enola Gay
I heard Rembrandt actually used the same paint on multiple paintings! What a ripoff!
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I heard Rembrandt actually used the same paint on multiple paintings! What a ripoff!
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 11:37AM (Unverified) said
@sammo21
in all fairness when you compare content and reused engines, MW 1,2 and 3 should have been one 15 hour game developed over a longer cycle. Instead, they sell a full priced episode because they know people will buy it blindly.
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in all fairness when you compare content and reused engines, MW 1,2 and 3 should have been one 15 hour game developed over a longer cycle. Instead, they sell a full priced episode because they know people will buy it blindly.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 3:28PM Emokitteh said
@(Unverified)
As much as I enjoyed MW1-MW3, I would not want to play them back to back to back in one 15-20 hour long game.
CoD works enough because at the end, after all the explosions and all the death, you get a break. There is a cliffhanger, you wait a couple of years and you continue from that point on. It's why after a Michael Bay movie all I want to do is relax. It's intense.
It may not be the best game series of all time, but it is one of the most explosive/engaging if you are willing to turn off logic and reason for a short period of time.
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As much as I enjoyed MW1-MW3, I would not want to play them back to back to back in one 15-20 hour long game.
CoD works enough because at the end, after all the explosions and all the death, you get a break. There is a cliffhanger, you wait a couple of years and you continue from that point on. It's why after a Michael Bay movie all I want to do is relax. It's intense.
It may not be the best game series of all time, but it is one of the most explosive/engaging if you are willing to turn off logic and reason for a short period of time.
Posted: Nov 12th 2011 9:20AM maxwell97 said
@Lucky48 Is it NOT art? I mean, you could argue it's not GOOD art, I suppose, but pretty much every game is art in some sense.
Actually I'd compare the MW games directly to the Rambo movies. In each series, the original had lots of action, but also had intelligence, something to say, some humanity, some tragedy, some subtlety, and a serious look at the cost of war. The sequels turned into cartoon caricatures, ramping up the action to ridiculous levels while painting the characters and their motivations in such broad strokes that they seemed like moving action figures. The sequels are still good, in their own ways, but they've lost something big from the excellent originals.
Now, the most recent Rambo movie moved back towards the style of the original, and hopefully MW will do the same.
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Actually I'd compare the MW games directly to the Rambo movies. In each series, the original had lots of action, but also had intelligence, something to say, some humanity, some tragedy, some subtlety, and a serious look at the cost of war. The sequels turned into cartoon caricatures, ramping up the action to ridiculous levels while painting the characters and their motivations in such broad strokes that they seemed like moving action figures. The sequels are still good, in their own ways, but they've lost something big from the excellent originals.
Now, the most recent Rambo movie moved back towards the style of the original, and hopefully MW will do the same.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:24AM BlackendO1 said
And my hope for humanity once again dropped.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 11:27AM Copybass Ah jeez zombies said
@NPTran23
You could have used a good example; like, a game that isn't 2D, and overpriced.
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You could have used a good example; like, a game that isn't 2D, and overpriced.
Posted: Nov 11th 2011 2:39PM Hoops said
@Copybass Ah jeez zombies @NPTran23 Terrible example. Which game do you think cost more to make, MW3 or Rayman? Which game offers gamers the most hours of gameplay? MW3 can justify the $60. It was expensive as hell to make, and most people who get it will put hours into the multiplayer. That experience is worth $60. Rayman on the otherhand cost Ubisoft far, far less to make, doesn't offer the gamer nearly as many hours of gameplay, and they think you should pay the same price. It's a quality game, I get that, but the days of spending $60 on a game just because all games cost $60 are over for me. You want $60, you better deliver a hell of an experience for that money. Give me value. Not some single player experience that I'll be done with in a weekend. I will definately buy Rayman, but I'll wait a few months and get it for $30.
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Posted: Nov 11th 2011 9:25AM ZXREYES said
i still know which game is better
