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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:02AM TheTorch said

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No real loss except from the American's and Europeans who pirated it.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:33AM Haggard said

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@TheTorch
Might as well send my copy to Crytek, ask for my money back and promise I'll pirate Crysis 3.

Seriously though, they should try a little harder next time. The only thing I can say is that there was a 'so bad it's good' moment when my suit started urging me to "GET YOUR ASS TO CENTRAL PARK, MARINE!"
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:10AM Shadow Hog said

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@Haggard
So you get your ass to Central Park... then what? Did you then go the Hilton and flash the Brubaker ID at the desk?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:10AM Lycaniz said

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ohh, nice, that took like 10 minutes to make?


WHY do you think that crysis 2 was the most pirated game?

what about ps3?

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:05AM HellFlyer said

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@Lycaniz

Crysis 2 was the most pirated game because there was an exploit for almost a month that allowed players to play online
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:04AM Lycaniz said

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@HellFlyer i know. i just want such important information posted alongside.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 4:36PM Esposch said

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@Lycaniz

I don't think PS3 figures were tracked because piracy of PS3 games is rare and the numbers would be pretty negligible.

I'm personally more interested to see how many DS and PSP games were pirated.
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Posted: Jan 5th 2012 12:17PM Lycaniz said

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@stiqlol completely wrong? the only ''statement'' i make that can be right or wrong is the question / statement about how long this article took to make (10 minutes)

and you dont know the answer *anymore* than i do, so you cannot say i am completely wrong.

how am i sticking up for piracy in ANY way?

also, piracy are not stealing. its copying without permission.

now, your such a supporter of gamestop?

i dare say they have cost game companies money as much as pirates with reselling of games without any cut going to the production companies.

now, ill admit, i do pirate games, however, if its a good game i usuarly buy it. infact, ive brought 90% of the games i have downloaded.

i do belive, that pirates, are some of thoose as buy most games.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:12AM Siphillis said

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Good job with that petition, guys.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:15AM ZexionArmando said

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Wait...

Portal 2?

Those people are terrible people

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:19AM Hunter141072 said

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and here we go again.......were those numbers came from??? just because a torrent has 1,321 seeds that means that 1,321 were going to buy the game???? give me a break..... those numbers are as stupid as saying that "only" 890,000 copies of gears 3 were pirated.... console games (specially console games) are big sellers on the informal markets all around the world, here in Mexico there is a lot of piracy no doubt about it, and in many flea markets you can find copies of xbox games for peanuts... the other day i saw in one of those markets how at least 30 copies of gears 3 for the xbox were sold..... those copies were never really accounted in those numbers, maybe they counted the first download that got the image, but what about the 30 copies that were sold from that image??? as always those numbers are good for nothing, and let´s be real crysis the must wanted game??? i think that title belongs to skyrim for bad or good.....

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:40AM Vidaluko said

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@Hunter141072 En que pulga lo tienen? xD
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:01AM Faceless Troll said

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@Hunter141072

Where did they talk about lost sales?

Oh wait, they didn't. Frankly those numbers seem perfectly reasonable. Going on one pirate site right now, I see the version of Crysis 2 with the most number of completed downloads was 26028.

The one right below that? 17776.

3-4 million seems very reasonable when you take into consideration multiple tracker sites and other sharing formats.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:13AM Hunter141072 said

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@Faceless Troll



complaining about piracy is complaining about lost sales.. otherwise they would not care, they´d say "hey look!!! it was pirated 3,678 times!!! but we know that those numbers are not equal to a sale lost, so we are ok" only calculations are nothing but stupid "what if" that don´t give a right idea of what you are losing or not.....
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:14AM Hunter141072 said

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@Vidaluko


no es mercado de pulgas en realidad, es en meave en el centro puedes ver que tantas copias hay...........
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:41AM Faceless Troll said

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@Hunter141072

Except this is just a facts sheet. If you want to interpret it as a complaint about lost sales then you're probably as brain damaged as the RIAA and the MPAA put together.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:58AM Anticrawl said

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@Doppel A Draconius mka Aguiluz

Please, you all know we forge those numbers to pull in more hits/peers right? How else do you think rippers increase the number of their botnets?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:27AM jsx92 said

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@Hunter141072 Torrentfreak is pro-piracy to the max. They want nothing else other than to crush IP law and make the Pirate Bay president.

That you think they're inflating numbers for anti-piracy sympathy is hilariously ill-informed.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:45AM Hunter141072 said

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@Faceless Troll


Just wait a couple of days when those SAME NUMBERS are used by EA or Crytek to justify their "low sales" of a game which BTW was not at the same quality level as the first one, this is not the first time that the industry uses this as reference, how many times we have seen those numbers of the industry based only on the amount of seeds that they see on the pirate bay???? Ubi loves to do that, and now is just a mater of time until they do the same with this "info".
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 3:44AM Anticrawl said

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@Hunter141072

Crysis 2 was WAY better than Crysis 1 in all areas, it was a real game not an awkward tech demo. Warhead was great though.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 4:52AM ComedyInK said

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@Hunter141072

Crysis 2 has mod support, no reason anyone should bitch about it.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 8:48AM MystileArmor said

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@Hunter141072 Jesus, ever heard of proper punctuation? That's the most terrible run-on sentence ever! Also, you're wrong.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:33AM TerryMasters said

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I wonder how many of those pirated games turned into sales. Personally I bought both the top two, and as much as Crysis 2 was CoD-ified, I ironically like it better than MW3.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:34AM JakeAuditore said

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Portal 2!? You monsters. Buy it for science.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:44AM tendoboy1984 said

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@JakeAuditore

You win.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:36AM ouenwoof said

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Why pirate that which you could have gotten on Steam for $5?

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:49AM CaramelZappa said

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@ouenwoof

Because STEAM DRM EVIL! But mostly because people are cheap, and greedy.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:47AM miles82 said

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@CaramelZappa Because Crysis 2 was removed from the Steam store for no good reason other than a DLC distribution ploy.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 5:20AM Hyperion45 said

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@ouenwoof

Because people don't want to wait for the game to be $5 to play it, and they don't want to pay $60 for it, so they pirate it.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 7:00AM Tiradyn said

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@ouenwoof
I'm pretty sure he's referring to portal 2...
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 3:08PM abercrombieco2 said

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@ouenwoof the ps3 version came with a FREE copy of portal 2 for pc threw steam. i'm sure if they got a free copy they would have still have stollen (pirated) a copy.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:45AM IslandLife said

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Baby Pirates YAYYY!!!
Joystiq, you are sooo money. You are so money and you don't even know it!!

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 10:12AM pluupy said

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@IslandLife
wtf does that mean
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 12:48AM CaramelZappa said

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And regardless of high piracy rates, these games all sold pretty damn well.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:00AM maxwell97 said

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Pirates, you suck. If you can't afford a game, or you you don't like the drm, or you won't buy a game without trying it first - just don't buy it and move on with your life. There's no excuse for stealing somebody's work. If you didn't pay for it, you don't deserve to play it. Think you're not hurting anybody? Think that $10 you would otherwise have paid for it from the bargain bin doesn't matter? Think the people who spend their careers making these games like to see j*rk*ffs like you get it without paying? Think investors don't see numbers like this and decide to put their money elsewhere, costing jobs in the industry? Think this isn't pushing developers away from PC games and towards consoles? Well, you're wrong. Grow up. If you use something, pay for it like an actual decent human being.

Thus endeth the rant.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:17AM Hunter141072 said

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@maxwell97

don´t worry i have heard that rant for the last 20 years...... since p.c´s are in the planet they have always been the "dying platform" funny thing is that in the old times pc´s also had a lot of games that were never created for them, but they didn´t used those old pirate excuses, it was just that some games were for the p.c. and some weren´t. But at the end right now you can play them all with emulators.... so one way or another they always end on the p.c.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:20AM Nordoyle said

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@maxwell97
Its not that they can't afford it, Just most pirates never intend to buy most games. The best way to fight piracy is to make something worth buying and not clutter it with over the top DRM.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 3:27AM toff said

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@maxwell97

All of which you said doesn't really apply to a copy. If two people walk into a store, one steals a game from the shelf and the other takes some burnt copy of the same game lying on the floor, which one do you believe the store can take action against?

A copy isn't anything but a copy, and it's not against the law to create. The only unlawful part is selling it back to people, which torrent sites don't do.

If you people want to find thieves, take a look at the company that just released a game for $60 with many bugs and issues, intends on releasing small content (often sometimes progressing the story or adding features that should've been included with that $60) later for another $10 a download, then goes around acting as if they're the victims in everything... Where's all the rip-off's and scams coming out of The Pirate Bay? How are pirates stealing when they're only downloading a copy of the original product? Or better yet, how would somebody return a copy?

I'm not saying I've never bought a game, but come on. If anything, torrents lead me to discover new game series' and genres I wouldn't have bothered with otherwise. I've even bought the sequel to games afterwards in some cases. This entire "issue" is just due to the fact many people have had this "stealing" problem drilled into their heads by Sony, MS, and the like in hopes to force everybody into paying them even when it's not worth it.

I also don't see how if someone is poor they don't deserve to play a game.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 9:29AM Ebok007 said

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@toff
I think you will find that creating a copy of COPYrighted material is, in fact, against the law.

And your closing line? We are talking about entertainment here, not necessities of life, there is no reason to be stealing if you can't afford to buy games. And yes, it's stealing, don't try to use skewed logic to avoid feeling bad about it.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 10:37AM Luciano said

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@maxwell97

I guess people who happen to live in countries where the games aren't even published and are prohibitively expensive to import don't "deserve" to play video games at all.

You like to ignore the fact that in any case where the game can't or won't be purchased legally either way, a pirated copy doesn't make a difference.

I'm starting to get worried at the increasing number of people buying into Big Media's propaganda campaigns, some time ago we saw the obvious fallacies in the "you wouldn't steal a car" commercials and we had more people laughing at those than taking them seriously, but now we have legions of consumers religiously chanting the same BS we used to laugh at.

With that said I happen to be quite hostile towards copyright as it is nowadays so any news of mass infringement is good news to me as it's a sign of people refusing to obey backwards regulations.

So go ahead, that downvote button ain't gonna click itself.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 8:22PM ShivanSwordsman said

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@maxwell97

... You do realize it's just as easy to pirate on a console, right? I mean, it's been proven that one can cheat and pirate just as easily on a PS3. In fact, that's the reason Other OS was removed from PS3... and all the rampant cheating and pirating didn't start until they removed Other OS support from the PS3 (ironic, right?).

Besides, one of the biggest arguments I've heard for pirating is lack of functional demos. They have no idea how the game will actually play, and decide to first try it out, rather than bet $60 on a stinker they'll never like. I mean, they've done EVERYTHING they can to make renting for consoles obsolete (online codes), and you can't even rent on PC, or see if a game will function on your PC without doing it. I can easily see the point.

The worst point of this thing is it doesn't show who actually purchased the game afterward. I figure the numbers would look a lot less grim if they'd reveal how many actually bought the game rather than just pirate it. They'd hide those statistics even if they had them, I bet you that. Why? Because numbers like these send you to the publishers' side, so they can DRM us straight into the ground, or rip out features in the sake of saying "Well Mr. Evil PC, at least you GET this game. Be happy even if it doesn't have dedicated servers!... Or basic functionality!".
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:57AM DarknessBear said

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Thats such idiotic logic. So you are saying portal 2, bf3 are poor quality games? Get your head out of your ass and pay for something. Ungrateful bastards dont deserve anything...
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:43AM tendoboy1984 said

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Argh, that joke was a wee bit terrible lads.

Hooray for pirates! Stealing is fun! Argh!

/sarcasm

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 2:45AM miles82 said

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I would have bought Crysis 2 eventually, but them EA had to make it Origin exclusive. Whoever you want to blame about the removal of Crysis 2, or Dragon Age 2 from Steam, it doesn't really matter. The fact is I can't get Crysis 2 for 5 dollars on Origin and not regret the purchase later... because of Origin.

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 9:36AM Ebok007 said

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@miles82
It was $10 on Amazon last week, so I bought it. I didn't have to mess with Origin at all.
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 3:17AM AMonkey said

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The most pirated games also happen to be the ones where the publisher/developer has the worst relationship with PC gamers. Surprise?

Posted: Jan 4th 2012 3:32AM toff said

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@AMonkey

No, but people tend to just agree with whatever is the most socially agreeable. Right now it's being corporate drones, repeating everything they say no matter how unreasonable (in regards to "pirating").
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 4:59AM Lightz said

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@AMonkey not really on the case of Portal 2
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 1:16PM DarkSonata said

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@AMonkey wasn't that Ubisoft?
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Posted: Jan 4th 2012 6:37AM (Unverified) said

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Pulling the game off Steam couldn't have helped much...

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