Someone in Germany -- perhaps even some people -- illegally pirated a copy of Prison Break: The Conspiracy. Hard to believe as it may be, it appears to be the case according to TorrentFreak, who delved into German public records looking for game publishers who have employed German law to track down (and demand money from) people who allegedly pirated various games. In Germany, Koch Media publishes the Prison Break game, and has been demanding settlements of "several hundred Euros" from offending IP addresses.
The records indicate that several major publishers, either directly or through subsidiaries/secondary parties, have been sending out letters to German citizens requesting varying levels of payment in return for not being sued. Where things get murky, however, is how the publishers are seeking out the accused pirates, using not always reliable "IP address-only evidence" -- easily circumvented with proxy domains and such. You know, hacker stuff.
TorrentFreak's report indicates that a variety of publishers and distributors are involved, including (but not limited to): Atari, Koch Media (representing Techland's Dead Island and Prison Break, and Eidos/Square Enix's Deus Ex: Human Revolution as well as Dungeon Siege 3 and various Final Fantasy titles), Daedalic Entertainment (representing LucasArts), Codemasters, BitComposer, Ubisoft, Kalypso Media, dtp entertainment, and Aerosoft. It is currently unclear how many settlement notices have been sent out by each company, or if any will continue doing so after these actions have been brought to light.
Witcher 2 developer CD Projekt Red was recently pursuing similar cases in Germany until it announced the end of the practice last week.
Reader Comments (50)
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 9:37AM jackdan594 said
They must want those Prison Break royalties that bad because nobody was stupid enough to pay for it
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:26AM (Unverified) said
@GreenElf
So what if you think the game is bad? Whether you actually like the game or not, piracy is still a crime.
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So what if you think the game is bad? Whether you actually like the game or not, piracy is still a crime.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:53AM Hunter141072 said
@jackdan59
They are asking money for THAT game!!!!!!!!????????????? prison break???? they should be thankful that somebody played that piece of garbage for more than 5 minutes...............I wonder if they are going to use that money to give refunds to the 5 guys that wasted money on it..........
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They are asking money for THAT game!!!!!!!!????????????? prison break???? they should be thankful that somebody played that piece of garbage for more than 5 minutes...............I wonder if they are going to use that money to give refunds to the 5 guys that wasted money on it..........
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 3:11PM kentuckyfried said
@jackdan594
It didn't review all that badly. If anything, the release date for that title was going up against some ungodly competition, so it's no wonder it got crushed.
As a fan of Prison Break, that's been on my backburner for pick-up. My backlog is already out of control though.
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It didn't review all that badly. If anything, the release date for that title was going up against some ungodly competition, so it's no wonder it got crushed.
As a fan of Prison Break, that's been on my backburner for pick-up. My backlog is already out of control though.
Posted: Jan 17th 2012 6:13PM Jenks said
@GreenElf
What does a crappy game and shitty sales have to do with people stealing it?
I choose the games I want to play, and then I pay for them. Just because some clowns have bad taste doesn't mean they should get their games for free. I'm so tired of the self entitled twats that defend this shit.
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What does a crappy game and shitty sales have to do with people stealing it?
I choose the games I want to play, and then I pay for them. Just because some clowns have bad taste doesn't mean they should get their games for free. I'm so tired of the self entitled twats that defend this shit.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:01AM DyslexicAlucard said
@Kibbles XIII She was told to "walk the plank" because she didn't have a dog to walk.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 12:51PM Vic Fontaine said
@DyslexicAlucard
They used that joke last time. VERY lame Joystiq, I expect a new joke everytime that image is used! Even if it's something incredibly gawdy (Argh, I just messed me poop deck).
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They used that joke last time. VERY lame Joystiq, I expect a new joke everytime that image is used! Even if it's something incredibly gawdy (Argh, I just messed me poop deck).
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 9:55AM Lerkero said
If there ever was an argument for "a pirated copy does not automatically equal a lost sale" I would say Prison Break: The Conspiracy is a game that fits that argument.
I have also seen people pirate a game, complain about how bad it is, and still finish it. If you are pirating just to "try out" a game then you would purchase it as soon as you know whether you like it or not. It should take hours (or until completion) to figure that out.
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I have also seen people pirate a game, complain about how bad it is, and still finish it. If you are pirating just to "try out" a game then you would purchase it as soon as you know whether you like it or not. It should take hours (or until completion) to figure that out.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 9:56AM (Unverified) said
i once got a "make it right" letter from a company that made "films" or in this case the film shared the same name as an old atari 2600 game called River Patrol.
Adelphia (comcast,infinity or whatever) shut my internet down for a few days... based only on the fact the file name was the same as the 90 minute movie. They never did get back to me on how a 5kb game contained an entire movie but logic wasn't exactly on trial here cause they just handed out my info to this bogus company's witch hunt.
But we have a PC so we're all criminals,we just haven't been told what for yet.
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Adelphia (comcast,infinity or whatever) shut my internet down for a few days... based only on the fact the file name was the same as the 90 minute movie. They never did get back to me on how a 5kb game contained an entire movie but logic wasn't exactly on trial here cause they just handed out my info to this bogus company's witch hunt.
But we have a PC so we're all criminals,we just haven't been told what for yet.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:36AM (Unverified) said
@sqlrob lol didn't say i was right in the matter,they didnt even check to verify any of the info,just had my IP address and the file name.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:18AM AGuyOnTheInternet said
While I can agree with the statement about one pirated copy does not equal one lost sale at face value, I don't understand why pirates are pirating lowly rated games in the first place. Crap games don't sell but they get pirated?
I feel like all of the ratiionale pirates give are vague and "pleading the fifth"-style statements to not incriminate themselves. Maybe they're working on their legal defense already? I was pirating games in the 90's, and I can assure you I very much was not downloading for "testing games" or downloading games I wouldn't have bought otherwise. I was definitely pirating to not spend money, and I'm pretty sure that's the intent of most pirates despite what they try to claim.
All of that said, I don't agree with the tactics the big publishers are using either and poorly conceived DRM.
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I feel like all of the ratiionale pirates give are vague and "pleading the fifth"-style statements to not incriminate themselves. Maybe they're working on their legal defense already? I was pirating games in the 90's, and I can assure you I very much was not downloading for "testing games" or downloading games I wouldn't have bought otherwise. I was definitely pirating to not spend money, and I'm pretty sure that's the intent of most pirates despite what they try to claim.
All of that said, I don't agree with the tactics the big publishers are using either and poorly conceived DRM.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 3:16PM kentuckyfried said
@AGuyOnTheInternet
They want to try out a game they know could be a real POS. That's why they're pirating...
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They want to try out a game they know could be a real POS. That's why they're pirating...
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 12:54PM Vic Fontaine said
@Ignatius
It's called blackmail and I don't think it is legal.
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It's called blackmail and I don't think it is legal.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:54AM TheHyphenator said
Interesting how all of this is getting pursued in Germany. Are German settlement and/or presumption of guilt laws different than the ones in America? That might explain why these companies are so aggressively pursuing these claims there.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:57AM Dick Socrates said
Seriously, what does it take Ubisoft to do before we boycott them? Torture someone to death on live television? I bet that wouldn't work "Yeah, it was bad what they did but I *really* want Assassin's Creed 6, and how is me not getting what I want, all the time, whenver I want it, meant to change things anyway?"
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:15AM Undulation said
@Dick Socrates
This practice doesn't affect me so they can sue those Germans for however much they want. I'll still buy Ubisoft games. They'd have to do something truly moronic like switch off their servers in protest/throwing toys out of the pram to lose me as a customer.
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This practice doesn't affect me so they can sue those Germans for however much they want. I'll still buy Ubisoft games. They'd have to do something truly moronic like switch off their servers in protest/throwing toys out of the pram to lose me as a customer.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:18AM Faceless Troll said
Because this worked out so well for CD Projekt right?
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:36AM jackdan594 said
Piracy may be crime, but under certain specific circumstances, justifiable. Like if I own a game on PS3, and it cones out on PC, and my PS3 version breaks, then I'm gonna pirate it.
And I tend to have less sympathy for devs when they knowingly release an awful game, then blame piracy for its flopping
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And I tend to have less sympathy for devs when they knowingly release an awful game, then blame piracy for its flopping
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:52AM Faceless Troll said
@jackdan594 Personally I don't give a shit if people want to pirate or not, but trying to justify it kind of makes you look like a tool.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 12:23PM AGuyOnTheInternet said
@Mr Esc is the namesarcasm is my
Seriously. If people actually read their game manuals, in the back with the support information, you'll sometimes find publishers do disc exchanges of damaged discs. Even if it doesn't say explicitly, you can ask them. I've done it a few times (including with mean old publishers like Ubisoft, surprisingly).
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Seriously. If people actually read their game manuals, in the back with the support information, you'll sometimes find publishers do disc exchanges of damaged discs. Even if it doesn't say explicitly, you can ask them. I've done it a few times (including with mean old publishers like Ubisoft, surprisingly).
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 7:06PM alucard3000 said
@jackdan594 That is the same as saying if my car broke down it is ok to go steal another one to replace it,how is that justifiable?
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:27AM Shadow Hog said
One of these days, I'd like to see a compilation of all these awful pirate jokes you guys keep making with this same image. I know you change them every time you use it.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 12:55PM Vic Fontaine said
So these companies have resorted to blackmail? Huh.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 1:23PM mikemyerz666 said
I loved human revolution. I hada great time with it.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 2:09PM Scuffles said
could also theoretically fall into entrapment.
By paying them off they are essentially admitting guilt and are then regardless of a pinky swear not to sue, opening themselves up to be sued into dust.
Of course if the people involved are pirating the game they deserve it but these sorts of dragnet style operations always net innocent people and they don't care about making their lives a living hell.
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By paying them off they are essentially admitting guilt and are then regardless of a pinky swear not to sue, opening themselves up to be sued into dust.
Of course if the people involved are pirating the game they deserve it but these sorts of dragnet style operations always net innocent people and they don't care about making their lives a living hell.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 2:39PM Faceless Troll said
@Scuffles Not really. If a company explicitly says in a settlement contract that they won't sue, then they're legally bound not to or they can be held liable by courts.
The problem is a lot of the people these companies go after tend to not be very knowledgeable in legal matters, and can't typically afford attorneys to defend themselves or provide good advice. It's essentially legal blackmail.
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The problem is a lot of the people these companies go after tend to not be very knowledgeable in legal matters, and can't typically afford attorneys to defend themselves or provide good advice. It's essentially legal blackmail.
Posted: Jan 16th 2012 2:11PM Dumac said
Didn't The Hurt Locker and the companies behind it try this same thing and it backfired/didn't work because it was basically extortion, since they couldn't actually sue all the people? I vaguely remember ... It was in the US though, but extortion is still extortion in Germany.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 3:24PM tendoboy1984 said
Every time I see that picture of the kiddy pirates and their witty banter, it just makes me laugh. So adorable.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 9:44PM NintendorkZ said
I almost wish there was more news-worthy pirating so we could have more of these pictures.
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