New side-scrolling Super Mario headed to 3DS

@Frozen Pizza

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the trouble will be that Bowser has kidnapped Peach again.

@ItsameMatt03

It would be awesome if Peach kidnapped Bowser for a change.

@Faceless Troll

Some "Bowser x Peach" action is what the series really needs. Those Koopa Kids and Bowser Jr. had to have come from somewhere!

@Faceless Troll Oh man that WOULD be awesome. So would she be a villain or would this be punitive and the Marios are trying to KEEP Bowser in jail against his army?

@Faceless Troll
I think that they tried something like that way back... Mario was sidelined and Peach was on rescue detail. Super Princess Peach, if I remember, on the DS. A simple platformer, but not bad at all... just really "emotional".

@Raffi256

No, new means new.

@Raffi256

Nope!

@Ellimem

Hopefully a new side-scrolling Metroid in 3D.

@ItsameMatt03

More than likely. I am just waiting for them to announce it. We may see that title this GDC in a similar fashion that we saw Super Mario 3D Land at GDC last year.

@ItsameMatt03

If they announce a new 2D Metroid, I will have to break down and buy a 3DS.

@LunarRoar

The name shouldn't be the deciding factor.
That said, this "New Super Mario Bros." stuff is getting old. I'd rather it was just numbered.

@Captaindrek1 Eventually, there will come a time when naming conventions will be like thus: "New New New New Super Mario Bros & Wario 7."

@Faceless Troll
Despite the ludicrous name, I'd totally go for a SMB game that let me play as a Wario Land-style Wario.

@Timjoy

I thought about that back in the Super NES years. Nintendo, make my dream come true...

@Timjoy
OH WOW. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
I can see it now...Nintendo Universe!

@Mmmmz

If I could upvote you forever, I would.

So basically you want a non-linear, multi-path world map with lots of secret exists in each stage and ridable animal friends that pop out of ?-boxes.

Make it happen Nintendo.

@Mmmmz

New Super Mario World. Miyamoto hinted at it at E3 2010. Please be true!

I will add my vote to this.

Please Nintendo, pretty pretty plzzz.

@legacybush
Calm down.

@pluupy
Calm UP!

@dooms33ker

I don't think you understand what 3D in the context of 3DS means, and I also get the impression that you're complaining solely for the sake of complaining.

@dooms33ker

As per my new commitment, I will not debate your idiocy. Your opinion is stupid. That is all.

@Doublethink

The sense of depth isn't as pronounced on a 2 dimensional plane as it is on a 3D one.

Also, I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining; I'm just disappointed that the 3DS isn't shaping up to be a portable Gamecube in the way the PSP was close to a portable ps2.

Sure you've got Resident Evil and Metal Gear, but Ninty hasn't been putting console quality effort on the system thus far.

Small and bite sized software is fine on the go, even in 2D, but not at $40 retail price. For instance, take the character Mario out of Super Mario 3D Land and leave the gameplay and style intact: very few would be willing to pay $40.

Give me a Mario Game with SM:Galaxy caliber scope and gameplay and I'd willingly spend $50. New Super Mario Bro's Wii was simply a Jacked up DS game marketed towards casual gamers who don't understand the value of content they are plunking $50 for.

Imagine Braid, Trine, or Super Meat Boy being sold for $50. Those 2D games are easily as good as NSMB: Wii and sell for a fraction of the price.

The Mario brand is being milked to death to the point of Nintendo shamelessly pimping the voice actor behind Mario, Charles Martinet, in PR infomercials for a party game that has more sequels than a Jenna Jameson skin flick.

Vice President Fils Amie constantly derided iphone games as poor products for gamers, yet look at the software Nintendo launched the 3DS with: a shallow submarine game (pun intended), a rehash of a pet simulator, and a hand glider simulator ripped straight from Wii resort. All for full price. If that's not nickel and dimming customers, then I don't know what is.

So no, I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining; I'm complaining because Nintendo have become hypocrites and are encouraging developers to follow their stead.

Here's hoping some developers will find room in the market for gamers looking for some bang for their buck and not just another quick cash in.

And before I get accused of trolling, I'd like to say that I've been one of the biggest Nintendo fans for many years - which is why it pains me to write all this.

@dooms33ker

The problem with the 3DS is that it is precisely a portable GC/N64. Two of Nintendo's worst performing game consoles in terms of sales and software support. The DS was originally marketed as a portable N64 and its sales were stagnant. Only when NSMB DS and Mario Kart DS came out and the system was rebranded as a portabled SNES did the system take off to the incredible sales it now has today.

Seeing as the 3DS has so far mostly emulated the GC/N64 software (I mean it's literally 3D facelifts of N64 and GC games) we are naturally seeing a N64/GC sales performance. And for what the system cost and lack of DS-like software sales is one of the main reasons Nintendo has taken its first financial loss in 3 decades.

The smart thing would be to strip out or tone down the 3D and focus on taking the software back to the GB/GBA/SNES/DS direction rather than the N64/GC direction. Nintendo is probably panicking right now as they've done the same thing with the Wii U. Probably why they're rebranding it, and at least they're launching with a 2D Mario.

But yeah, not making a 2D Mario right now would be stupid for Nintendo since it drives hardware sales, unlike 3D Mario.

@Vanor

Sadly, I think you are correct in pointing out the correlation between 2D games and sales.

Excluding Zelda, Nintendo lost me last generation with the direction of the DS and the Wii. Unfortunately, I think it'll be the same this time around :(

@dooms33ker

You hate 2D games? You must have not played many games as a child.

What's wrong with making a 2D game in this day and age? 99% of the games on iOS and Android are 2D games, as are the games on Xbox Live Arcade.

And back in the old days of gaming, we payed $30 or more for a copy of Super Mario Bros. 3. A game's price should reflect it's value and content. NSMB Wii may not be worth $50 to you, but to millions of other people, it is worth it.

I personally loved NSMB Wii, simply because it's a brilliant throwvback to Super Mario Bros. 3 in terms of level design and the Koopa Kids.

Mega Man 9 & 10, Rayman Origins, NSMB DS / Wii, Sonic Generations, DKC Returns, etc. are all proving your point wrong. 2D gaming can coexist with the latest and greatest high-tech 3D games.

End rant.

@tendoboy1984

I'm not against 2d games, I like some of the modern ones.

99% of ios games are 99 cents. Xbox live arcade games are $5-$10.

If you like 'copy and paste 2d' games for $50 then that's fine. Don't be ignorant to the cost of producing these 2D Mario games; Nintendo is making a killing off of these 'throwbacks'.

Me, I'd like to see Nintendo innovate and stop whoring out my childhood experiences.

@Vanor
I'm gonna have to disagree with pretty much everything in your comment except the reduced importance of 3D. And all your console comparisons barely make any sense.

@dooms33ker there arent any 2.5 d marios out yet